INDIANA BASTARDLY COMMUNITY: VOTE OBAMA! VOTE OBAMA!
Posted on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 @ 3:01pm by Moelicious
Photo Credit: Changethethought.comI know this has nothing to do with gossip, but I'm putting this up because Hillary Clinton is straight-up evil. Rumor has it that she has a nuclear bomb between her legs. We must stop her.
Hillary needs to be put in her place & all you bastards in Indiana & North Carolina need to unite and vote for Obama.
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Clinton all the way. We need someone that can lick Bush.
As an Indiana bastard, I must say that I protest the attention that Indiana has been given in this election. While it's nice for my home state to actually have a say in this election, the truth is that the election was over some time ago. Nearly 2 months ago, Clinton would have to have started getting something in the neighborhood of 75%+ wins in every single state to pull ahead in total votes. Now that there are just a few primaries left, the lead is basically insurmountable unless some of the superdelegates don't follow the lead of their constituents.
get this communist propaganda off the site
McCain '08
haha yeah right! obama has no resume, he refuses to salute the flag, and he refuses to wear a "support the troops" ribbon (mind you these are the same troops who are fighting for his freedom to run for president). but that's the kind of man we want in leadership! give me a break.
i don't like hilary either...but give me her over him everyday. At least we know where she stands.
Screw all that shyte!!! Obama 08'!!!!!
and listen to # 3!
Whats a "Self-Made Man"? Is that when you write a book about your celeb status and rake in 75% of your total income. Obama and Hillary blah, blah, blah... Bring back slick Willy!
hey, a brotha's gotta make a living, right?
This is going to get VERY ugly.
hey Moe - Its Hard Out Here for a Pimp...
F--- Obama
Can a brother get a table dance???
#7 is right bring back the Bill. Everyone was getting laid & everyone had money.
cindylou - a product of Fox News. How sad. I hope you get McCain. He wont make any real chances that your countrys economy need. Give him 4-8 years, please. Then the rest of the world will laugh at you when there is no money for pensions or health care. But most important, your imperialistic foreign policy will be over.
I just voted for Obama in North Carolina this morning.
Cindylou, that is all propaganda. And it's a flag pin that he gets flack for and McCain doesn't wear one either. It's actions that matter, not whether you wear a flag pin or put some lame bumper sticker on your car.
I doubt that he will pull it off in Indiana, but he will win North Carolina by a substantial margin. I already voted for him ,way back when, in the Virginia primary.
Vote Hillary!!! It is the lesser of the evils. Take it from me. Barack is an empty suit. As Carville said, If Hillary gave Obama one of her cajones, they'd both have TWO! He is a wimp and Hillary is a fighter and a ball buster. Those boys in Washington are scared of a woman President.
@12 LOL - ok Chris Rock.
I’d like to nominate Carl Weathers since he is the only one from the Predator flics that hasn’t held an office.
Action Jackson – ‘08
Oh and Coolio for VP since that job seems irrelevant anyway these days. What does Dick Chaney really do all day besides stacking dollas?
So someone who is a Big State tax parasite politician is a... self-made man? Stick to half naked starlet pictures please as I'm guessing most come here to escape such idiocy.
Honestly politicians suck in general. It’s always the same old 2 step of say what you want to get elected and cruise control until the next election – hasn’t anyone every run for class rep? Generally it's the cool kid or the kid voted most likely to get his ass kicked. I’m still waiting on those extra bathroom breaks I was promised.
This election is like choosing which way you want to die; Obama - Some Unknown /un-named disease, Clinton – Herpes, it goes away but reappears at anytime and can be strong or weak and lastly McCain – or better known as Alzheimer’s or Dementia – though better options then the last where you had to pick if you wanted a 5th Grader (Bush) running or someone who just wanted a job title that sounded cool (Carey).
I'd vote for Obama if I was a US citizen, but honestly I don't think he will win, you know why'???Because he IS SMART!! And AMerican president has to be an uneducated racist dumb ass like BUsh you know..so we gotta continue this trend, Bush, Clinton, Bush, McCain/Clinton...you know..Americans are too dumb to elect an intelligent decent man to lead this shitty country. There I said it..eat my shorts.
Vote for him if you want socialist and Marxist policies brought to America.
never voted democrat, never will.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCK ALL YOU POLITICS SLAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JUST FUCKIN' BLOW UP THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"And AMerican president has to be an uneducated racist dumb ass like BUsh"
you mean like Nicolas Sarkozy junglegirl?
yes please pick obama as a candidate so mccain gets elected president.
That's about the only good reason i see to vote for that idiot.
Rumor has it that she has a nuclear bomb between her legs. We must stop her.

Hillary lost her's during menopause, but Condi still has one.
Okay. Here's the thing.
All politicians are not good people IMO. In this election, I see Obama as the least damaging candidate. Hillary is a fucking.... don't get me started. But I believe that even as a liberal leaning individual, McCain is a much better politician than Hillary. Fuck, Ann Coulter said that if McCain got to be the nominee, she'd support Clinton.
Also we have to look at out foreign affairs. In the middle east, women are not treated on an equal level with men. If Clinton becomes our leader, we will not be taken seriously by them and a whole movement would most likely occur, creating more shit than that's already happened.
Not to mention Nuclear Weapons are my # 1 fear.
I met him, shook his hand and took a pic...it was pretty cool
McCain is a dumbass. He says he wants to stay in Iraq another 100 years, That's enough for me to hate him. Also, he's a fucking racist. He called vietnamese people gooks and said he hates them and always will. now dont give me any bullshit about what happened to him in vietnam, thats still WRONG of him to say! not all vietnamese people are bad! also, the vietnamese had a right to do what they did to him and any other americans there. we were wrong to go to vietnam and that was a stupid war.
Obama all the way! Conservate republicans should all die. stupid fucking uneduated racists. just look at bush, that illiterate fucker..
*conservative
Kenny Lingis- WOAH WOAH WOAH McCain calls Viets gooks?!?!??!?!?!
Having Vietnamese blood in my veins, I find that offensive and no longer see him as better than the Clinton
This is just RIDICULOUS!! Research the candidates before you vote for either, and not base ones vote on the advertisements here.
He does not support some actions that the troops has done (such as invading Iraq on the basis of a lie and killing innoncent civilians), I can understand that, not to mention that he is ambitious and can motivate well during speeches. However, he does not have the experience or whatever one needs in order to run the country. In my opinion, he is more talk than action. To vote for Hilary Clinton would be a more effective way to evoke change. (if one is dissastified with the Bush administration)
all you gotta do is watch this one family guy episode where Lois Griffin is a candidate to be the president...it explains Americans...when she speaks intelligently, people dont get any of the things she says...but once she starts giving short, stupid, irrelevant answers and gives "9-11" response to every question, people vote for her haha...hilarious episode
Fuck Obama!!Fuck Bastardly who the hell you think you are?Vote is a private decision.Another reason to dislike Obama!!
You can't change anybody's mind on who to vote for. But by some chance you do, vote for Barack attack.
Fucking Commie! Fuck dumbass Dems!
I've seen that one d55, it was hilarious!
^ hahaha...yeah! i was laughing my ass off...the way she says 9 *pauses to test people's reaction* 11 was so funny
@#34 - How in the hell can Hillary Clinton introduce change when her entire voting record in congress has supported the status quo, while Barack Obama's has not? An extra 4 years, towing the line in the senate, does not experience make. And so-called experience got us Bush... twice!
I'm supporting Obama, but if Clinton wins the nomination, she's got my vote, because a vote for McCain is a vote for 4, or 8, more years of Bush policies, and FUCK THAT!
What the fuck does any of this have to do with titties and such?
Ah, fu*k McCain and all right wing shits, right wing politicians are the same crap everywhere in the world; they throw their nations into wars, recession, unemployment and huge deficits, debts, they only redcued taxes of the rich and another bunch of regrettable policies
long story short, right wing politicians sucks
2 years ago no one even knew who this guy was, now the moonbats want to give him the keys to the Caddie.
@ 44 RightupDaButt or what ever your name is... I would prefer if you were going to throw a slur that you said it right... it's "moon crickets" but you probably missed the last white sheet (Klan) slumber party cause yours were all dirty from wet dreams an mommy had to was... Due your family proud and keep hiding as an Uncertifed Bastard but a Certified Homo.
A coach once told me "you only have to suck one dick to be called a f@g".... Wipe your mouth and go home now.
#44 says:
2 years ago no one even knew who this guy was...
Seeing that Barack Obama assumed national office on January 4, 2005 (3+ years ago), and Illinois state office on January 8, 1997 (11+ years ago), I'd say you're wrong... as the right usually is.
Read a little, dickweed.
What you know isn't all there is.
#43,
1.more Democrat presidents then Republican presidents have taken us into war. One seceded from the Union..arguably instigating the civil war, WWI, WWII (though you'll have to admit a pretty good war), the Korean War, VIETNAM and escalation in Vietnam, then not to mention all the botched invasions from the likes of Clinton and Carter. Saved by their own military incompetence.
2.As far as recession goes, the cause of an economic downturn can't be isolated so precisely as to point to one single cause each time. It could just be the inevitable but brief decline after an expansion reaches an unsustainable state. What's more important than casting blame is knowing what to do, or not to do, after the fact. And unfortunately for your argument, Democrats have had a much worse track record in dealing with recession than conservatives. Case in point: the stock market crash of 87 was every bit as bad as the one of 29, but since Reagan resisted loud cries to intervene what followed was a decade-long period of prosperity. This is in direct contrast to the Great Depression, when FDR tried to regulate the hell out of it resulting in a much longer depression than any that came before or after.
3. High unemployment in the US can be traced to the 30s when the first minimum wage law was put into effect in order to prevent black males from "taking jobs" from white male construction workers since they would work for lower wages.
and oh yeah, Dems love minimum wage laws. In case you didn't know.
I think the whole thing is bad. Hillary's made Judicial Watch's corruption list proper at least twice (2006,2007). Huckabee was on this year's list. McCain's coming under fire for taking in-kind contributions from foreign nationals, which is against the law; his campaign chairman is under indictment for conspiracy, extortion, money laundering, and wire fraud. Obama made the list this year because of the Rezko thing.
Most everything Billary has flung at him revolve around a. a preacher, b. his race, and c. "inexperience."
I think the preacher bothers people because the majority of them are used to more sedate oration on Sunday. If you want to roast the man for suggesting 9-11 had its roots in shit we've done overseas for years, you're naive. That's the truth. For a long time, our economic and armament put us in a position where people were reluctant to strike against us, even as we were doing wrong against them. Everyone's ignored the white ambassador that was on national TV saying what the reverend alluded to in that sermon. He was right when he pointed out the hypocrisy in founding a country on the premise that "all men are created equal," but denying that equality to anyone that wasn't a white male for a very long time. Is any rational person going to argue that the natives and the US-born Japanese didn't get fucked by the government? We all know the government lied about Iraq.
The only thing that's maybe "untrue" in any of the sermons the media and Billary have seized on is that HIV/AIDS is man-made and meant to be a weapon against non-white people. What makes it no so far-fetched is the fact that the U.S. Public Health Service has been complicit in experimenting on people, its own citizens, before. What is to stop the government or a corporation working with the blessing of the government wouldn't do the same to destitute people in 2nd or 3rd world countries?
Maybe the whole reason it was so inflammatory is because, since Bush took office, the idea of telling the truth has become foreign to us. It doesn't help that ideas like integrity have been painted as "unpatriotic" or "anti-American" during the last eight years.
Hillary has no place criticising anyone for inexperience in terms of office. She herself has only been a senator less than 8 years(sworn in 1/3/01, so 7.3 years). Hillary's never held office before now. Most of her work experience comes from repping major corporations, like Wal-Mart, and the "work" she did as the wife of the guy in charge. Obama has experience at the state level (about 8 years) and the national level (3.5 years). Clinton needs to shut up.
But what gets me the most is the sense of entitlement and superiority she carries herself with when talking about/dealing with race, particularly "blackness."
I'm more than a touch pissed off that she would automatically assume that an entire community should vote for her, not because of her own merit, but because people liked her husband.
I also don't care for her assertion that her husband is more "black" than an actual black man. Is she saying that because he fits stereotypes (musical talent, infidelity, love for Mickey D's)? It can't possibly be because he has any idea what it's like to be black in America. He earned that "1st Black President" tag because of how he reached out to the community. Even if he is only half black and from a well-to-do background, his American experience is more distinctly "black" than Bill's could ever be. Hillary needs to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down with that mess. Just because she knows some black people or has some black supporters, that doesn't make her comments any less patronizing or any more "okay."
She doesn't have a clear answer for any issues I'm concerned about and dances away from hard questions unless she sees an opportunity to ignore the question and cast doubt on her opponents at the same time. She's jumped on McCain's gimmicky bandwagon at different times in her campaign as well as Obama's if she thinks it'll sell as well for her as it did or does for them. Her willingness to conform also says to me that electing her will mean more of the same, just like McCain. Clinton has failed to convince me she can hold a platform of her own and stick with it. I don't want a follower. I want a damn leader.
That being said, I don't "owe" her a vote because of my skin color or because she has a twat, too.
-End of Bastardly essay-
Ugh, more Obama propaganda. This is why I voted against him. His voters are like Bush supporters, just continually hitting you over the head with peer pressure. It's almost laughable how much Obama's supporters sound like Bush supporters after 9/11.
Now, instead of being accused of being unpatriotic, like the right accused everybody of being after 9/11, now you have Obama supporters threating White and Latino people with charges of being racist, if they don't vote for Obama, and other Black people with being "Uncle Toms". All because some people don't necessarily think that a 1 term Senator, who's the most liberal guy in the Senate is gonna get elected or would be able to do a lot, if he gets elected. But he gives great speeches right?
More people focused on things that have nothing to do with the president. Everything the president does can be balanced by the other branches of government, so this idea that Hillary Clinton can somehow take us to war with Iran and that a Democratic Congress would let her, is laughable.
The president essentially gains coalitions to get things done. Who's gonna be better at getting Washington insiders to get things done? A guy who just got to Washington 3 and a half years ago, or a political machine of almost 20 years, that ran this country for 8 prosperous years?
The Obama people, as much as I like Obama are just delusional, if they think that the most lefty Senator of our generation is just going to waltz into Washington and convince the right that a woman has a right to choose, that Affirmative Action is a good thing, and that we should cease the War in Iraq immediately. It's not going to happen. At least The Clintons are Centrists. Centrists get elected in this country. That's why Howard Dean, George McGovern, Walter Mondale, and Michael Dukakis never got elected president. That's why Bill Clinton is the only 2 term Democratic President of the last 50 years. Half of you idiots probably voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 and 2004.
Who gives a fuck if you like Hillary as a person or not, you're not gonna be "drinking beers" with her are you? I care about the economy, jobs, and gas prices. Why would I trust somebody who's never had any experience with any of that shit? Because he gives good speeches?
@#49 - Bravo!! Not to mention she [Hilliary] is a pathological liar... another glaring Bush Administration trait.
Everything the president does can be balanced by the other branches of government, so this idea that Hillary Clinton can somehow take us to war with Iran and that a Democratic Congress would let her, is laughable.
You've obviously been asleep during the current administration.
Listen, we're all screwed this election. Clinton is a lying socialist in a pantsuit and Barry is everything he says he's not plus a racist.
McCain is just a plain stupid liberal with an (R) after his name. Choose your poison, boneheads.
revising my earlier statement, here is a quote from Hilary >> I want the Iranians to know that if I am president, we will attack Iran. And I want them to understand that. ...we would be able to totally obliterate them.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. That seems to be her position on nuclear war, people.
I do not understand people that seem to find it difficult to choose who to vote for!!!
I think Obama is the only person that seems to know what he's talking about...
I’m a E.U citizen and postgraduate student - and I have been discussing your elections with friends and colleagues for some time now - and most people think that although Obama is the right man there is no way he's going to win because he's black. I really stand by these arguments as well; I honestly think that american people are too racist to have a man of black heritage as their president. Now having said that I must draw attention to the fact that FOX news has waged a war on B.Obama pointing out that his middle name is Hussein that he is a Muslim, and that he smokes! Now this is a TV network that says these stuff - not a hick-town newspaper - and that proves how racist you are...and don’t tell me that ALL americans are comfortable with the fact that Obama's middle name is Hussein. Post#21 'JungleGirl' is absolutely right; americans are too stupid to vote for someone that can actually help them. Its like they want a brainless monkey (like bush) just so they can feel that they are smarter than their president. I wonder what would happen if there was a debate between bush and Obama - just for fun of course. Really, can someone just think about that for a while?
If you people think that the war in Iraq is TRULY worth it, just go ahead and vote McCain.If you think that more money should be invested in healthcare, education, insurance and the poverty, unemployment then vote for Obama it's that simple...Would you prefer to be proud because your son/daughter lost both legs fighting in Iraq? or would you prefer to brag that your child went to college/got a MA degree by studying? 9-11 should have made you BACK-DOWN and accept responsibility of the crimes your country has committed against humanity - but instead you got even more blood-thirsty. And don't tell me that all you do is HELP the world -no one invited you to go in Iraq.And why is it that you went to Iraq to HELP the poor people and NOT in Uganda or Rwanda where genocide is part of the peoples reality? Know that there are more than 1.5 BILLION Muslims in the world. One would think that if ALL these people wanted to harm you would ALL be dead and your country in ruins - it’s as simple as that! You invade more countries --> you make more enemies --> you decide that its time to get rid of some enemies --> so you invade more countries...and so on...it’s a vicious circle. And for the people that are too stupid to know that: Iraq was an enemy of Al Qaeda...AFTER you got there Al Qaeda found the opportunity to enlist people that joined the resistance and --> enter insurgent!So stop complaining about terrorism - you are the ones that are CREATING terrorism. Also something about Marxism and Socialism...its obvious that you despise both because you DON’T know what they are about...looks like you had a chat with your right-wing-brain-washed-daddy who told you that Marx is a NO-NO.Go read the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital and then speak your CRAP. Anyone can say I don’t like Marx - but I am yet to meet one that can back this up in an argument. There are people out there that think Communism is based on a police state...look at the CCTV in the U.K and then tell me what's a police state asshole!And a curtesy from me: if you have the brains to understand them read the following philosophers/intellectuals: Marx&Engels (The Communist Manifesto),Horkheimer (his Critical Theory),Marcuse (One-Dimensional Man),Freire (The Pedagogy of the Oppressed) and Bourdieu (The Weight of the World) just for starters. TATA for now...
@ The Devil
Hey ASSHOLE!!!
You say :
"Why would I trust somebody who's never had any experience with any of that shit?"
Experience is something you acquire...it’s not trasmitted or hereditary! ASSHOLE!
Is that the reason you didn’t vote for Obama? ASSHOLE!
How is he going to get experience if he doesn’t get elected? ASSHOLE!
So you don't want a Democracy you want either a Dictatorship or a Monarchy - where a person stays in power for "ever" and with time becomes experienced? A Dictator can become like the fucking GODZILLA of experience, right? ASSHOLE!
I imagine the clintons were born experienced right? So did bush and mccain? ASSHOLE!
Also
"Centrists get elected in this country"
I thought YOU voted not a machine!The people elected are the people YOU elect!ASSHOLE!
Your statement implies that you are all mindless drones without judgement and desire for change.Think about it for a minute and you'll see it yourself.ASSHOLE!
Finally
Isn't hillary's last name clinton? Yes? OK then DO NOT vote for her! It's as simple as that!
P.S
I really don't think I made any spelling/gramatical mistakes but if there is someone that feels like bashing me for the things I say please feel free to say : "learn how to spell asshole!".I'm NOT a native speaker BTW!
@ cindylou
Ok here is what you said:
"Obama has no resume"
Look @ post #56 and replace the word ASSHOLE! with BITCH!
"he refuses to salute the flag"
I'll pass that because I haven't got evidence neither to verify nor refute it.
"he refuses to wear a "support the troops" ribbon (mind you these are the same troops who are fighting for his freedom to run for president)"
KISS MY ASS! He has my respect for NOT doing that! Have you got any EVIDENCE that your troops are fighting for ANYONES freedom?
Support the troops? The guy wants to get them back to their homes and families. I think it would be somewhat controversial if he supported their mission. You see politics is a messy business you can’t say one thing and do another...If he wears that crap you speak of he will probably be accused by the right-wing pigs of being inconsistent with his own beliefs.
@ #3 (WokkaWokka)
You dont even know WHAT Communism is DICKHEAD!
Read a book or something.
Better a Communist than a NAZI!
Don't you think?
LMAO @ The-Word's diatribe.
It's people like you, who are soooo angry and so threatening, especially over the internet, just like the right-wing was after 9/11, making accusations about people. Did I call you an asshole? What gives you the right to call me one? Nothing, but your misguided liberal rage.
You act as if Bill Clinton isn't the most successful liberal president of the last 50 years. You're right though, he wasn't born with experience. He was the governor of Arkansas for what 12 years? That's who gets elected in this country, generally, Governors or Vice Presidents.
Now, in the case of Hillary. I agree with one thing that Bill Maher said, that Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are in it together every step of the way. If you don't think that he consulted with her every night and day, when he was president, then I don't know what to say to you. They promoted themselves from day one as "two for the price of one" and everyone admits that she is every bit Bill Clinton's equal.
Look, I know you're probably too young to remember the 90s, but they were full of economic prosperity and peace, unlike the 80s dominated by Reagan /Bush or the 2000s, dominated by Bush II, and definitely unlike the turbulent 60s and 70s, full of assassinations and economic problems and racism.
The 90s was the most prosperous time of all of our lives, probably, unless you're like 60 or something and just because you like Obama more, or you don't like Hillary Clinton's attitude, you're acting as if none of that happened.
Ask Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and all those states why they voted for HIllary? That's because the last time any of them had jobs and money in their pocket was when the Clintons were in office. They had jobs in the 90s
So, go ahead, pretend that Hillary's Nancy Reagan or Laura Bush or Jackie Kennedy and just stood around and had kids, and looked pretty, while the "boys did all the work", but anybody who knows politics knows that she's a brilliant woman, who was Bill Clintons biggest asset, while he was in office. I'd go out on a limb and say that the Clintons probably have a political marriage, but that's because both of them realize that they are each other's equal.
P.S. It's super left-wing unrealistic idiots like you who caused Al Gore and John Kerry the elections in 2000 and 2004 by voting for Nader, so I don't care about liberal wackos like yourself. I smiled when I voted for Hillary, just because I knew it would make idiots like you mad.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
@ 59 The Devil you raised a lot of true points.
The things most Americans do not realize are that people in other countries do not really like us right now - in particular our government. The US reminds me of the microcosm of my home state Louisiana - where you grow up here, go to college here, marry your sweetheart here and have your kids here with the big vacation being to Florida or Texas... The majority of the world that they see is just through TV.
The rest of the world did not realize we were dumb until we voted Bush a second time. I lived in DC during 9/11. I remember afterwards I was at a football game and he gave his big speech and A-10 wart hogs flew over and hell they were gonna pay! But I think that idea stopped for a lot when instead of staying on course we detoured and decided to kill Sadaam cause in Bush's words "That man wanted to kill my dad".
Though Bush is dumb in many ways he does surround himself with smart people and thus the campaign of fear was run through America. Every other night the terror level was raising and lowering on the news (they don't even mention it anymore). The sad thing about terrorism is that Americans do it about every 4 or so months but we choose to call them "School Shootings".
Personally I think the whole party system is stupid. If you look at a football team - you want the best 12 players on the field. It doesn't matter if they are rookies or 10 year vets. Who is going to give you a chance to win? Right now I think it's the time where you put the young quarterback in and see what he can do - and if he sucks - you take him out after "4 more years" and you try another rather then keeping the same loser in because you as the coach can't admit when you're wrong ... WMD's anyone????
And one other quick thought – I’ve never really dug the whole call people out their names (B!tch, A$$hole, etc..) Calling someone out of name does help a debate it makes it an argument.
@ The Devil
Stop using Greek words you'll get brain-damage...Greek language is too perplexed for you. BTW '????????' is related with the academia - we don't write dissertations here we just RANT!
OK, let me make one thing clear...
I do not call people assholes - I only call assholes, assholes.
Now onto my rants :
I'm in my mid 20's and I am in the right age to remember perfectly that it was during the 90's that you started this war with Iraq - and even though you probably do not (want) to remember you've been bombing the Iraqis EVERYDAY since the 90's. Hence your prosperous years...
For the u.s it has ALWAYS been the same: NO WAR=NO PROSPERITY.
And for a small lesson in history just to prove my point.
"During the 90s, United States had the most number of international interventions all over the world, approximately 17 cases in which the most important ones occurred in Middle East. The major interventions are as follows: 1990 in Iraq (Gulf War), 1991 in Haiti, 1992-1994 in Yugoslavia, 1993- 1995 in Bosnia, 1994- 1996 in Haiti, 1995 in Croatia, 1996- 1997 in Zaire (Congo), 1997 in Liberia, 1998 in Sudan, 1998 in Afghanistan, 1998 in Iraq, 1999 in Yugoslavia, 2001 in Skopia, 2001 in Afghanistan and so many other sanctions signed in UN Security council against Iran, Iraq and Cuba."
The more you intervene the richer you get - the more people you KILL the happier you are - the more countries you INVADE the better for your wages and your economy.
The food you put everyday on the table is full of the BLOOD of the INNOCENT, just imagine that your breakfast has children's blood instead of milk - mmmmm - yummy!
And thank you for helping me prove my point - your ignorance makes my arguements 'stronger'.
Now with the following statement I think you have earned the right to be called an asshole...
"I smiled when I voted for Hillary, just because I knew it would make idiots like you mad." ASSHOLE!
I'm not an american citizen...
In my country we also have this ELITISM that dictates that if you have the same surname with a previous gov/ment official you can get elected because people associate you with him/her and his/hers 'achievements'. Bush is the first (recent) example. You want to have a taste of the Clinton dynasty as well? Is that how you perceive Democracy? You vote for someone because his daddy was the president (or her husband?).I think that Democracy has become hereditary in a lot of countries and that is DANGEROUS to say the least. Even if Hillary was the most stupendously amazing candidate I would not support her - just because of her last name - JUST FOR THAT!
Democratically speaking, people that are in any way RELATED with past members of the administration should not have the right to run for office. Unless of course you want to change your country's name to Kingdom of the u.s.
See ya the next time you want to get owned...
'????????' = 'DIATREBE' in Greek characters...there is obviously a problem with the encoding. :)
Huh? Really? That's it?
So, you wouldn't vote for a Kennedy, just because their name is Kennedy? REally?
It's not about Hillary's name, it's about the the people they have around them. It's still James Carville, Paul Begala, and Lanny Davis, and all of their people who were around during the economic prosperity, for us. Carville famously is the one who came up with the saying, "It's the economy, stupid"!. That is what The Clintons(not the family, but the political machine) gets . You think I give a fuck about all those inconsequential skirmishes. You really wanna compare that to how the Iraq War has drained all of our country's resources? Bridges are literally falling down in America. Gas is $4.00 where I live at, when Bill Clinton left office in 2001, it was 98 cents, you really think I give a fuck about you holding a grudge about Haiti all that other shit, while people can't afford to drive and are losing their houses in America? Shit is literally falling apart here.
Really, and if you think an Obama administration isn't gonna do some of those same things, then you obviously know nothing about the way American politics works. All administrations bomb and pillage. The Clinton Administration aint do nothing the Reagan, Ford, and even Kennedy with the Bay of Pigs stuff wasn't doing. Americans always believe it's their right to run the world, which is bolstered by the rest of the world running to America to solve most of it's problems.
The bottom line is, you can cry all day about Mogadishu and shit like that, but people had jobs, cars, money, and cheap gas during the 90s, things they don't have now. That's what matters, and if Obama doesn't give them those same things, they really wont care if the rest of y'all in other countries "like us" or not, they'll be mad and vote his ass out of office in one term. It's about money, and it's always been, and it'll always be.
SMH@ you thinking I give a fuck about a "dynasty". I care about a job and gas.
ok lets get things one at a time:
"You wouldn't vote for a Kennedy, just because their name is Kennedy?"
Mmmm, well in this case, your glorious Democratic country proved that it won't accept change (actually it cannot allow/afford change). And it is strange you mention it because J.F Kennedy did not get the chance to serve the full 4 years -and really do what he wanted to do- because a couple of bullets got in the way. On these grounds - that his administration was incapable of completing its work/plans I would give my vote to the man or woman that would promise to continue his work even if he/she was related to him. BUT that is an exception and that’s why you chose him as an example. Since you mentioned it though, Obama SPEAKS like Kennedy...Bottom line is that Kennedy had a 'VISION' and the world did not manage to 'see' what that was...you KNOW that, and you know that's why you chose HIM as an example, because all your other administrations are criminal and you know it. Still, just because JFK had a specific agenda that doesn’t necessarily mean that everyone in his family wanted to follow him or shared his values/views.
"The Iraq War has drained all of our country's resources?"
Here's what I believe about your economy:
Since the gold standard is no longer an issue, wars are a good way to get -that is get approval to borrow- funds from the Federal Reserve. What bush is doing (I think) is borrowing money to fund the war in order to keep the u.s economy alive. Let us not forget that a big portion of the money goes to wages and in companies that are supposedly re-building Iraq (investment).Now most of the money that goes into wages comes back to the u.s i.e. soldiers send the money back home to support their families who they spend it on goods, taxes, luxuries, mortgage payments, etc. or in the worst case scenario deposit their money on a u.s bank. Nevertheless, this allows for a continuous flow of financial assets and keeps the economy from 'freezing'. In a nutshell, without this war your economy would crumble. That is why I keep repeating that you live at the expense of others i.e. what do you think would happen to your economy if you got ALL your troops from all over the world back home tomorrow? Of course another reason for this war is that you get to CONTROL the oil in Iraq.
Now all the above is MY theory, my way of explaining the situation - and as such I am open to criticism.
"Gas is $4.00 where I live at, when Bill Clinton left office in 2001, it was 98 cents, you really think I give a fuck about you holding a grudge about Haiti all that other shit...Mogadishu and shit like that..."
Well that’s where we differ...I don't give a fuck about your gas prices, but I do care about the fact that your government finds it legitimate to invade other countries for NO reason and kill innocent people so that you buy your gas as cheap as 4$/gallon. Have you got any idea how many children have died so that you can buy gas at 4$/gallon?
Now if you want to do something to get out of your pathetic condition go and protest to your government - after all you do live in the land of the free and the willing and the constipated, and all that mambo-jumbo shit don't you? You mean that if five milion or more people gathered outside the white house your administration would ignore you? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Is that how your Democracy works? And you have the fucking audacity to want to spread your Democratic values to the Middle East??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Stop complaining and crying about your miserable existence and go DO something about it...that doesn't involve killing and raping kids.
You actually said that (you) having a job, a car, money and cheap gas matters more thana the lives of others i.e. in Africa or Iraq??? You have no fucking right to kill children to keep your gas prices low. You don't even have the right to breath at the expense of poor and innocent people.
And then you wonder why people HATE you maggot country.
I don't give fuck if you hate America or not. I guarantee you that wherever you live right now, is doing similar if not the same shit, or benefits from America doing the shit that it does. Half the countries that criticize America would beg for it's protection, if shit went down. This whole world is full of criminals. America's just the best at it.
Please, tell me, what country do you come from where your government is 100% fair to it's citizens and lets them do whatever they please and provide jobs for them and never ever kills in order to serve it's bottom line? Please, I'd like to know about this "magical" place, because even the harshest critics of America like France are treating the minorities in their countries like shit, or haven't you seen them rioting in the streets of Paris? Or haven't you heard of all the Pakistani kids in GBR being discriminated against. Power corrupts and anywhere there's power, there's corruption. Racism exists all over the world.
As for Kennedy, Kennedy got in the White House, how? By literally stealing the election of 1960. Richard Daley stole Illinois for Kennedy and he picked Lyndon B. Johnson, because he helped him "steal" Texas.
You speak of Kennedy as if he had some "vision" to turn the world into this great place. He was a politician. His father was a criminal, his whole family were criminals, and they, were allowed as criminals to turn "legit", something that would've never been allowed a Black or Brown family in America. He cheated on his wife constantly, and he used criminal means to get into the White House. People went to jail for voter fraud behind his victory. So, you might wanna rethink your "deification" of JFK, and his Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, was the one who declared Vietnam and was the first Texas Oilman to be elected President. Yup, you come full circle. It was JFK's Vice President who got the big oil companies, that you claim are "killing babies for cheap gas" involved. Bush probably wouldn't be able to do what he's doing today, if it wasn't for Kennedy and LBJ. It's all politics. You just pick who's gonna screw you less and do the most for you personally, because they're all dirty, when you pull the curtain back.
I personally, don't want to spread "Democratic Values" across the Middle East. I was against the war, but now recognize it's not gonna be over anytime soon, so it's not going anywhere. The rest of the world could become fundamentalists and declare "Jihads" on each other for all I care. If you want a "Ayatollah" to tell you what to do, who the fuck cares? Not me.
Like I said, I care about jobs in America, lower gas prices, and Universal Health Care. Expecting anything other than that from any of the candidates is just stupid and naive. The day America stops fighting and pillaging is the day America's not America anymore, and America will still be America under Barack Obama, John McCain, or Hillary Clinton, and if you live in a country that America wants to invade, there wont be a damn thing you can do about it. That's just a fact.
I am Greek...Greece has NEVER invaded other countries or made wars to create colonies or expand its borders, or to get resources, even though we have always been and we still are the #1 military power in the Balkans. Our only enemy historically has been the Persian Empire (in ancient times) - who we defeated in numerous occasions - and now Turkey, a country which strangely enough is also our NATO ally.That goes to show how fucked up politics are. We had our differnces with other Balkan countries in the past -like Bulgaria- as well.
Turkey is 'presented' as an enemy while in reality it is not. I really believe that most Turks do not hate Greece or want to go to war with us. My country has always been on the DEFENSIVE in regards to military action.
We actually played a key role in WWII as well. We held against the powers of the Axis from October 1940 until April 1941 when France held for approx. 15 days. Just think that the entire population of Greece is less than the population of New York. The only war that was (according to my opinion) disgraceful for both countries involved was the Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922). We both committed terrible atrocities. Look it up on wiki if you like. Other than that my country has never harmed anyone - NEVER.
Although I hate to admit it Greece has indeed become americas pawn - nevertheless that is due to economic ties - because we are indebted to you just like so many other countries. The Greek people and the Greek state have NEVER actively supported your military invasions i.e. we have not send any troops in Iraq. We did send troops when you intervened in the Balkans but that was more because Serbia & Kosovo are next door and less because we were trigger-happy like your troops are in Iraq.
Here lies the difference between you and me : I live in a country were people still have the power at least to make the gov/ment think twice or even more before they do something that would involve an invasion or going to war.
Do not twist things; I never said my country is perfect. Of course I do not believe that my country is a heaven - far from it actually. And you know why? Because we have been poisoned by your fucked-up culture and our youth is turning to mindless little punks and criminals with no education, vocabulary, dreams and hope. It will not be long until we reach a point where we have 'school-shootings' too. There is discrimination, racism, unemployment, inflation...We are not as bad as you though.
Yes we do benefit from america but that is only because we live in a world were economies have become globalized and intertwined, so if your economy collapses it will affect a lot of countries in a very bad way, including mine. But that is all there is to it. We do not support your troops or help you in your criminal interventions on other countries like the U.K does for example.
I do not think that Greece has any enemies -not in the sense america has anyway- or that we will ever need your 'help'. Don't forget that you usually help people by killing them - maybe to put them out of their missery? PROTECTION??? I know nothing about american protection. Come on man stop with the bullshit, america protects? SHIT! I thought you were looking after your own ass...WWII? Yeah you first implement a series of embargos, including oil, iron, steel and mechanical parts, against Japan and 'force' the Japanese to attack you so that you will enter the war and get a piece of the pie and then you cleverly come up with the 'Destroyers for Bases Agreement' to get some British booty in exchange for some sweet 'charity'. Fuck man how noble you are, you really HELPED and got nothing in the process! You are so pious that you just made me barf in my mouth a little bit. Open your damn american history pamphlet and READ your criminal discraceful history!
Your country receives criticism from others because it has the power to CHANGE (read KARL MARX) things towards the better and it always does EVERYTHING worse - attacking countries for no reason, fucking with their economies, administering embargos on food and medication like they did with Japan in the 40's and Iraq in the 90's causing the deaths of millions of people, etc...
Who gives a fuck about Kennedy? FUCK HIM and his vision! YOU mentioned him in the first place. LOL! I just said that he had a 'vision' and that he did not get the chance to make it real - whereas the other asshole (bush) almost made it.
People vote their presidents based on what they say or what they stand for (promises, promises...). If you assholes really voted for bush twice, why not vote for Obama once? bush seems like a monkey compared to him - both in appearance and in intelligence. You said "You just pick the one who's gonna screw you less", I say pick the one that's going to do more 'good'. You seem to care only about your little ass - you don't give a shit about what happens to other people or to other countries - news flash : that's not so smart, it is people like you that allow bush and his gang to roam freely around the world and kill and it is people like you that have turned america into the shithole that the whole world despises. You have to understand that ALL issues are connected i.e. economy with terrorism, education with crime and deliquency, poverty and unemploymnet with social exclusion and deviance...etc.
If YOU (personally) dont do something about your countrys problems who will?
As for your last point I will have to repeat myself :
"If you want to do something to get out of your pathetic condition go and protest to your government. You mean that if five million or more people gathered outside the white house your administration would ignore you? Is that how your Democracy works?" You are SHEEP!
Go and DO something - ANYTHING to let them know you exist, you have a voice. It's easy to rant here and say fuck this and fuck that and cry because the gas price is high...BUT what have you done to CHANGE things? WELL? Are you too afraid? You don't want to FIGHT for your right to decent wages and cheap gas? You prefer to sit inside and rant with me? OOOH! Then STOP whining like a bitch and bend over for uncle bush and his long hard fiscal policy... Unless you understand that THEY serve you and not the other way around NOTHING will change.
BTW I LOL'd with this one : "...and if you live in a country that America wants to invade, there wont be a damn thing you can do about it." HAHAHA! You seem to take pride in saying that, I would really worry if your army had demonstrated even a hint of competence in the battlefield. Anyway, you're funny. Just to bring you back to reality: I think they did something in VIETNAM :) and they did something in Somalia and they are doing something in Iraq as we speak! You always get your asses kicked - sorry but when was the last time you won a war on your own against an admirable opponent??? You always attack poor countries,
that is why in the eyes of the world your army is nothing but a bunch of criminals and thugs. OH! and when you see defeat you just NUKE them like you did with Japan! But I guess that is part of your humanitarian program as well. Way to go america (fucktards).
Also it is so obvious how much america wants to invade Iran (maybe Pakistan too?) - but does the word NUKE ring a bell? You can only invade countries that can't fuck you up (back home). And it might be ok to send your youngsters to die in Iraq (instead of sending them to university) but I think having N.Y nuked would be too much!
You say you protect and help others and at the same time you call your country a criminal country!?!
And whats that shit? : "If you want a "Ayatollah" to tell you what to do, who the fuck cares?" bush anyone? I think you ALL did EXACTLY what he told you to do...and I do care because maybe tomorrow it is MY country that will be attacked by your NAZI regime.
Closing, lets look at some Nazi history :
"...The Reichstag (German Parliament) fire was a pivotal event in the establishment of Nazi Germany...The fire was used as evidence that the Communists were beginning a plot against the German government..."
Replace the word Reichstag with W.T.C (9-11) and the word Communists with terrorists and you have the new Reich! HAIL bush!
Cheers!
You do know that if we wanted to, Iraq, Vietnam, and Somalia wouldn't exist, right? You do know we could've nuked those bastards and went home, right? If we wanted to press the button, the entire middle-east would cease to exist right? Ok. Barry Goldwater wanted to do that, but it was the American people, who were against that. That's why we "lost" in Vietnam, and everywhere else, because we "let" them "beat us", but make no mistake. We have the resource to erase your country and every other country there is, if we had to. WE just choose not to. We'll pick and choose which resources we want and let you live, most of the time.
Ask Hiroshima and Nagasaki what we're capable of . . . . and that was in 1945. Don't you think we could rearrange the face of the earth if we wanted to now? Um. . . . yeah. We get in our own way when it comes to wars. WE stop ourselves from annihilating everything in front of that. Don't forget that. For those reasons, you guys should love Jane Fonda and the Anti-War protesters of America, like myself, we save a lot of lives.
I have no problem with Barack Obama, matter of fact, I'm a Democrat, who will probably vote for him in November. You, obviously not knowing anything about American politics, didn't seem to notice that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are in the same party, and vote the exact same 90% of the time. The difference is the experience and economic policies of The Clintons have been proven to work in America. All this spiel about "babies dying" and all that bullshit is irrelevant because like I said before, "America is still gonna be America, regardless of who's the president". You'll still hate America with Obama in office for the same shit you have always hated it for, because Americans are richer than everybody else, and wont tolerate anything less. That's why I don't give a fuck about what you think about America. America would have to become a different country for you to like us and . . . . . that's not gonna happen anytime soon. I'm not "crying" about high gas prices, I'm just saying that whomever will help the economic situation out in America will be fine with me. I'm not starving by any means. I'm typing this on a brand new computer, that I just bought from Best Buy. I drive my SUV everyday. It's just more of an inconvenience than anything(don't you hate that?)
People like you are just in love with Obama's flowery rhetoric, but Bill Clinton was saying the same shit 16 years ago, when he got elected, and y'all still found a reason to bitch about all the shit he did.
When I vote for Obama in November, it'll be because he's better than John McCain on economy, and the mostly liberal values I have, but don't buy into the bullshit that he's gonna "change" things. If you know how American Politics works, then you know there's 3 branches of government, and anything he does too radically would get smacked right back in his face. Even Bush wasn't able to do everything he wanted to do, and the Republicans had the House, Senate, The White House, and the Supreme Court, yet couldn't get rid of gay marriage, abortion, or any of the shit they really wanted to do. America will always return to it's natural state, regardless of who's in office, that's why our system works.
And just to let you know, I protested against the war in Iraq in 2003. I've let "my voice be heard", because I live in a country that's built on that.
But back to the main point, I like The Clintons on economy and because they make The Republicans sweat. Obama's a nice guy, but it'll take a lot more than that to fight the right-wing in America. Anything else that you've said is completely biased and irrelevant, because Obama's not gonna change 90% of the shit you were ranting about.
@ The Devil
OMG! Did I say you're funny??? You made me LOL!
The first two paragaphs are ALL the money...HAHAHA!
You talk like a first grader...my dad has a black belt in karate and can kick your dad's ass anytime! OH yeah!?! my dad has a Smith&Wesson and will kill your dad before he moves a muscle... 8D
What a typical fucked-up-in-the-brain little american you are. Its always about who has the bigger gun! What a pussy-country you have there.
I don't know what would you do without your hi-tech weapons! I bet your country would be easily overrun by an army of 50 Pygmies...
Fact is you can't do shit...So STFU and go (inconveniently) pay your
100$ to fill the tank of your bat-mobile.
And you did not "lose" in Nam you just lost! Like you always do! Yeah, I know "let them beat us" has always been your strategy! LOL! You got owned as always and you say you let them beat you? You are HILARIOUS!
And you seem to be very proud for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, so many civilians dead...I pity you, your counrty and your repeatedly owned army.
But that's what you always do, when you see someone that is braver than you, you shit your panties and send in the bombers with the nukes...you saw the Japs were not going to surrender (they actually 'armed' themselves with pitch-forks) and you nuked them, better them than you right?
And I thought you went in Nam and Somalia and Iraq to HELP and spread Freedom, Democracy, Peanutbutter and Coca-Cola - why would you want to nuke these people? I'm flabbergasted by your comments.
You seem oblivious to the fact that you are NOT the only nuclear power in the world...maybe you wanna revise your statement? I do not understand what the u.s or the world in general could accomplish through a nuclear war (?) stop feeding your ego with surrealistic bullshit about world domination. You country is crippled, and you need to focus on how you're gonna clean your mess before you set out to obliterate the world.
Holy shit man! You have an SUV? Now I'm really jealous - why can't I be an american!?! WHYYYYY? You have everything, new computers, SUV's, women with plastic tits, healthy food @ McDonalds...and most importantly NUKES! to make sure no one can give you any BS. You're livin la vida loca man!
P.S
Is your favorite song 'Macho Man' by the Village People? I bet it is - I bet it is :) ! Macho - Macho Man !
I sound like a first grader? Really? All that self-aggrandizing cynicism and sarcasm makes you use to make you feel smart, sounds like somebody who's gotten the short end of the stick their whole lives, then you see America on TV and blame all your problems on us. Is that it? Are you made that your hairy women don't look like the girls on "The O.C." and "Beverly Hills 90210"? You mad that most of your women look like Borat? You mad that you all eat McDonalds and drink Coca-Cola, listening and imitating rock stars and rappers, with one breath, while condemning American culture with the other? You mad that your country's a shell of what it was in ancient times? Mad that America is the worlds only "Superpower"? Get over it. It aint changin' no time soon.
You really didn't rebut anything I said, just the "morality" of what I said. You know deep down it's true. We choose not to go at 100% in wars. When John Kerry came out a few years ago and stated that some soldiers in Vietnam had "killed babies". It was an outrage. Why? Because even though it was a war, the American people did not like the idea of killing kids. The Vietcong didn't have the same morality that we did. They had no problem killing their own women and children, even when we wouldn't, which is why they gave the women and children guns and used them to lure our soldiers. Once again, if Barry Goldwater, and a lot of the right had their way, we would've nuked the shit out of all of them, whether you wanna cry about the morality of it or not. It's people like the left-wing of this country that kept us from literally blowing a hole in South East Asia. We actually try to follow the Geneva Convention, unlike our enemies. We publicly excoriated Lyndie England and put some of her fellow Army guards in prison for 10, 20 years, just for taking naked pictures of Iraqi Prisoners, while at the same time Iraqi's were beheading American hostages. That's the difference. You can't cry about our violence, then when we try to play fair, call us pussy. If you want to see us not be pussy, then like I said, you could get blown the fuck up and we rip the Geneva Convention the hell up, and say the hell with all of y'all.
You brought up us "getting our ass kicked" not me. If I'm in a fight, I'm the bigger guy and I choose out of fairness, not to use all my capabilities, then you can't really brag about kicking my ass can you? That's all I'm saying, so stop it with the "you get your asses kicked" talk. WE hold back, and have ever since 1945. I never said we were the only nuclear power in the world, but India and Pakistan could get evaporated too, if they wanted too. We're still the biggest gun there is. And if we choose to cock it back, the rest of the world had better look out. Then we'll see who gets "owned"(God, you are such a geek, who uses words like "owned" in real life). And you're in Greece, a country we could take over with the Texas National Guard. We wouldn't even have to nuke you. You guys barely, just barely pulled the Olympics off on time, and didn't you guys invent them?
And yes, I have slept with a few girls with plastic boobs, some without, unlike you who, if you've ever been laid, will be laid no doubt, by some broad with a unibrow, mustache, and a first name with 19 letters in it. I really, really envy you, Greek internet nerd
And like I said before, I disagree with trying to spread Democracy to anybody. I'd let you all figure out all your shit, but the world always comes crying to us. Look at Darfur, all you hear from around the world is "Where is AMerica", then as soon as we get in and risk the lives of our troops, jackasses like you'll cry about us. I don't wanna spread Democracy to anybody. That's more what the neo-conservatives are about. I'm about American prosperity.
But go ahead, rant some more about your "pet peeves" about America, none of which have anything to do with the original purpose of this thread, which was to spread Obama propaganda. You aint even talk about Obama in your last post, why are you here? You're not even arguing in favor of Obama anymore, just ranting and using the internet to anonymously insult America, which has absolutely nothing to do with voting. But go ahead Stavros or whatever your name is, why don't you invoke the name of a Greek God or Goddess, who could help you destroy the greatest Empire the world's ever seen. Just stay off our radar and you'll be ok.
Well I used the word owned because I wanted to be more polite...I actually used 'fucked' when I first wrote my rants - I regret it now. You know all the bullshit you said about me and my country and our women...you know its just bullshit right? Our #1 industry is tourism and coincidently most tourists are americans and english. So next time your friends BEG you to come to Greece for the summer just stay home for a month and masturbate...to women with plastic tits.
Anyway say whatever you want about my country and our women, you obviously don't know shit about them anyway, I bet you couldn't even find Greece on a map. Like most americans can't find Iraq or Korea. At least we do have a history that we can look back with pride 9 times out of 10. And yes, the reason my country is indeed lame today is because it has become afflicted by your fucked-up culture...I have already said that.
The Vietnam War cost the United States over 50,000 lives and close to 340,000 casualties (most crippled for life) I fail to understand how someone does that on purpose (?) i.e. sends his army to be butchered deliberately as part of his strategy. The Vietnam war lasted almost eight years - you mean to say that you had been holding back for eight fucking years? WTF man are you people retarded or something? And weren't your troops in Nam a bunch of opium junkies that fucked Vietnamese prostitutes all the time? Way to go G.I.Joe, fuck that Hoe!
Hey, check this out: "Vietnamese killed by American military: 1,165,000+" what can you infer from that? You mean there are no women and children among them? RIIIIIGHT...
Look man no disrespect and all but come on just win ONE fucking war with SOMEBODY - ANYBODY and then you'll just MIGHT scare me with your cowboy national guard bullshit...Holy shit man I forgot! You won your CIVIL war. Although that strikes me as being an oxymoron.
and you fought VICIOUSLY in that war - it seems you enjoy killing eachother more!
Isn't that why you all have guns in your homes? Because you are scared of your neighbours - maybe one day you'll all shoot eachother and rid the world of your presence. Empires do not live in fear dickhead, didn't you (supposedly) go to Iraq because you are afraid of terrorism? PUSSIES. I ain't got NOTHING to fear bitch.
If you want to see what we are capable of read about the 'Battle of Crete' in WWII. Just to give you an idea: "...it was the first occasion during the war that Germans had encountered widespread and unrestrained resistance from a CIVILIAN population, and for a period of time it unbalanced them." There were old-farts killing German commandos with WWI rifles motherfucker. Just imagine what I will do to you if your skunky ass gets here.
Moving on. You pussies can only fight in flat land, its ok if the battlefield is as flat as a basketball court (like the desert is in Iraq) - if you were to attack a country like Greece (meaning ANY country in the Balkans) you'll fucking get you asses grinded. You're gonna experience Guerrilla tactics like never before. Nam is a fucking playground compared to the Balkans. (remember KOSOVO?)
Its out of your league man, see you lost some 5,000 helicopters in Vietnam, about two-fifths of which were combat losses. Look at what happened in Kosovo:
"President Bill Clinton also underestimated Milosevic's determination to resist military pressure. He belatedly admitted that he had failed to recognize Yugoslavia's capacity to withstand the bombing campaign..."
You see your fucking planes could not even scratch anyone in Kosovo...stop dreaming kid - I told you before the only reason the u.s still stands is because you have your nukes. Your army is fucking lame and the whole world has witnessed that on many occasions.
Look at what is happening in Iraq - you suck dick in urban warfare as well...the thing is that you need 'space' to use your technology - tanks, choppers and planes become redundant in urban, jungle, and dense forest or mountain campains.
I can't wait to see you leave Iraq in shame :)
I don't fucking care what is the reason you lose everytime - you spare you opponents, you shit your panties, you get bored and pack your shit and leave...I look at the result - and the fucking result is outright DEFEAT. Now I have yet to meet a man -let alone a nation- that will admit defeat. So I understand your inclination to provide all these lame explanations...so its ok :)
Sorry to spoil it for you kid but the greatest Empire was the Byzantine Empire and it was Greek - We fucking ruled for more than 1000 years. And there were no fucking machine-guns either, we ruled by the sword, it was hack and slash all the way - pure heaven. Your pathetic village of a country has been around for less that 1/3 of that time and has been busting our balls with its 'supremacy' for the last 60 years. You have a LOT of ground to cover asshole, get your facts and your history straight before you come and sell me your crap.
(And the second greatest empire was also Greek - see Alexander the Great.)
And an Empire is built on culture and economic prosperity - you must first have coherence, unity and wealth to have a strong army and rule supreme.
You have no culture (pop-culture?) and your economy is going to HELL (to meet you probably). That is why you keep repeating the word nuke, its all you got left.
We never nuked anyone you piece of shit we just rape their assholes on close-quarter combat. We've being raping stronger military powers throughout our history - Persians (fucked), Turks (fucked), Italians (fucked), Germans (well they at least got an enema, lol). Wanna taste of that? Come and taste the Greek cock! Just make sure you stick your nukes and your missiles up your ass and bring in the infantry to have some fun with...
Hey one last thing: Can you write Greek like I can write and speak your ridiculously retarded and easy English language?
Can you have a conversation about philosophy, mathematics, statistics, medicine, geometry, anatomy, politics, military strategy or a dozen other topics without using ONE Greek word? Try to 'boycott' every Greek word and phrase and you'll become a fucking mute.
You do not 'invent' the Olympics asshole - the Olympics are an idea not a cadget :) and we pulled them off nicely as well - you know one characteristic of our Greek temperament is that we always leave everything for the last minute. I guess its funnier this way.
And yeah, my country is a shell of what it was in ancient times so instead of being GLORIOUS it is just AMAZING.
I'm fucking done with you...
OH! I almost forgot to make my post relevant to this thread:
VOTE FOR OBAMA everyone!
Greece supports OBAMA!
cadget = gadget :)
Just so you don't get confused!
I might have a couple more...I hope you'll figure it out without giving me the duche line : "Learn how to type"
After all 'errare humanum est' :)
So, answer this question.
Could George Bush not pick up a phone and have any country on this earth permanently deleted or not?
Yes, he could. Why he chooses not to, is partially,because we would not let him do it. Even as fickle and superficial as we are, we do not like the idea of wiping whole races of people off the earth. Also, if you're soooo smart, you'd know that Vietnam, Iraq, and all our other wars aren't about "winning", they're about money. That's it. If we nuked Iraq, there'd be billions of dollars of oil going with it. You don't even get it. The rich in America, is all about profit, and nothing else. They couldn't care less about "winning a war". When you guys fight, you're fighting for your existence. Like you were 60 years ago. WE fight because it's Thursday and Must See TV is full of re-runs. See the difference. Like I said, you can't get "fucked" or "owned" or whatever you call it, if you could anihilate your opponent with one button. Who gives a fuck about all those styles of combat, you're waxing poetic about, when you could destroy anything in front of you.
And when Obama becomes president, I'll be soooo glad when his army invades another one of these shitty as countries, just because I know you'll be somewhere bitching about it.
America's gonna be America regardless of who's in charge. Vote Democrat in 2008 Americans, if you want prosperity. But fuck what the rest of the world thinks. Especially The Greeks.
Hillary Clinton in 2008!!!!!! Democrats Unite!!!!!
But if Hillary doesn't get the nod(which she wont)
Barack Obama in 2008!!!
John McCain's not even an option. I guess that's one thing me and Stavros can agree about.
P.S. I've never been to Greece, don't plan on going to Greece, and have no plans of learning an "irrelevant" language, like Greek. English is the universal language. That's why you learned it. If anything, I'll learn Spanish or something, but only to talk to Latin chicks with big fake boobs and big asses. The Greeks don't even matter enough for anybody to want to talk like y'all, but I bet you and your friends practice your "American" style English everyday, just hoping that one day you can come to New York or L.A. and live like we do.
LOL@ at America not being the greatest empire. People still thought the world was flat, when y'all had empires, if even that. They probably still worshipped like Cattle back then. Modern History's all about the West baby!!!
From wikipedia :
The idea of a flat Earth was a common belief until the Classical Greeks began to discuss its shape about the 4th century BC...Hermannus Contractus (1013–1054) was among the earliest Christian scholars to estimate the circumference of Earth with Eratosthenes' method. (Eratosthenes -> Greek. lol)
Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274), the most important and widely taught theologian of the Middle Ages, believed in a spherical Earth; and he even took for granted his readers also knew the Earth is round.
KA-CHING!
"Could George Bush not pick up a phone and have any country on this earth permanently deleted or not?"
#NO-NO-NO# I bet he would love to do that to some countries though :)
"Vietnam, Iraq, and all our other wars aren't about "winning", they're about money."
#CORRECT# Thats EXACTLY why you haven’t won and you will NEVER win even ONE war (unilaterally).
"If we nuked Iraq, there'd be billions of dollars of oil going with it."
#If you nuke Iraq, Pakistan & India will erase the U.S from the map in 10 secs. If YOU are smart you'll understand WHY# Hint : People are still dying in Hiroshima & Nagasaki from radiation, and children are being born deformed and suffering from cancer - and that was an A-bomb not a Hydrogen or Thermonuclear bomb. Imagine the effect of the latter on neighbouring countries (climatic change, disease, civil uprising). Hell, you might even invoke the wrath of the Russians. It is statements like this one that make me keep repeating that your stupid culture has been the bane of humanity - more and more people are turned into mindless assholes that think it is ok or it is so simple to press a button and 'delete' a country.#
"I have no plans of learning an "irrelevant" language...The Greeks don't even matter enough for anybody..."
#Having already explained to you that ALL science has evolved through the Greek language, civilization, and culture I find your statement very surprising. You are either illiterate or an idiot to call my language irrelevant. When we pondered on the spherical nature of the earth, physics and cosmogony your ancestors were monkeys. When we ACTUALLY fought and forced away from Europe the barbarian hordes of the East over and over again for thousands of years, your ancestors were monkeys.
Find something more materialistic to attack the Greeks with (like SUV's, nukes, tits, porn, McBurgers and shit, stock exchange markets, laptops, broadband, etc) there is no way you are going to win an argument where you (an american) attempt to present yourself or your country as superior to the Greeks in regards to scientific or philosophical 'value'. 80% of ALL that is even remotely scientific originates from Greece and the rest 20% from the East.
HISTORY is the judge here, not your personal opinion. Fact is that throughout history we have achieved greatness in our military campaigns, without having the means you posses today (logistics, technology, large army, etc). All educated people look now and will always look on our achievements with awe whether you like it or not. WTF have YOU got to show as a country that is not based on our science? We are the reason you are free dickhead - and you better stick that to your head. We have been the Keymasters & the Gatekeepers of the path that leads to Europe from the East for thousands of years. Show some fucking respect.
[And what do you think would have happened if we had joined forces with the Germans (AXIS) in WWII? The Germans would have taken Africa in 5 days, if you know history you can figure out what that means.]
And to think that the Iraqi people have never harmed even one american. How many u.s CITIZENS has the Iraqi ARMY killed? How many Iraqi citizens has the u.s army killed? If you can't take the heat in Iraq pack your shit and leave and STOP talking about your damn nukes. NUKE-GEEK.
You know the NAZI's have written history as well :) It's not WHETHER you write history, its WHAT kind of history you write.
If you want to know more about the significance of history read Karl Marx. But I bet you'd rather watch Oprah...
Some last remarks:
"Even as fickle and superficial as we are, we do not like the idea of wiping whole races of people off the earth."
I suppose you assume that you all have telepathic abilities - how else can you make the assumption that 300 million people agree on disliking one idea?
On the one hand you say that: "WE stop ourselves" and "we would not let him (bush) do it (nuke Iraq)."
On the other hand you say: "If you're soooo smart,you'd know that Vietnam, Iraq, and all our other wars aren't about "winning", they're about money."
So, since YOU the people have the power AND the knowledge, one can infer either:
1- That ALL of you assholes knew from the start this war was about the money i.e. not terrorism, freedom and retribution, and yet you still went along with it and endorsed it, which makes your whole nation war criminals.
2- That ALL of you assholes knew this war was about the money, tried to stop it, and you got bush's balls (with a cherry on top), which makes your whole nation a bunch of fucking maggots that can't actually stop or control anything or anyone.
Either way my little Devil, you have managed to fuck things up with your uncontrolled rhetorical speech... LOL!
P.S
"I bet you and your friends practice your "American" style English everyday, just hoping that one day you can come to New York or L.A. and live like we do."
Well, actually there are some people like that in Greece. But me and my friends throw eggs and shit at them...its a messy job but somebody gotta do it!
!TATA!
Once again, another irrelevant diatribe(yeah, I said it) from some pompous Greek asshole, who because he's taken a few classes thinks he's Plato and wants to engage in more intellectual masturbation to make him feel good about his obviously geeky self, who like I said before, if he's ever been laid, will be laid by some hairy Greek chick with a million syllables in her name.
Yes, your language is pretty irrelevant today. Yes, you guys, The Greeks, were the shit at one time. . . . Nobody said that The Greeks don't have a great past, but that's the past, not today. WE are the shit today. If you asked the people in your country if they could have the power and money and resources at their disposal that we do, would they say no? Hell naw. Like I said, y'all barely finished the preparation of the Olympics, on time.
And yes, you are right, history will be the judge, and it will judge America as the richest country in the history of existence and the most powerful country that has ever existed. You are absolutely right about history. When history is written, there will be a huge chapter on America and how we played Monopoly with the rest of the planet in 200 years.
As for the war in Iraq, why do you act as if everybody in AMerica had one mindset during the war. If you had taken the time with your over-inflated head to read, you'd see that people like myself on "the left" protested against the war. I always knew it was about money, which is why I was against the war and voted against The REpublicans in 2004 and 2006. You can't seem to wrap your head around that, though, because it helps you to vilify the American people, if you can act as if everybody was in favor of the war. Millions of people protested against the war, here in America, or do you not have television in Greece? I was one of those people. So, you're irrelevant rants about "us" and how "we" did this and that is completely delusional. The right-wing was in control, therefore we went to war. That had nothing to do with the rest of us who didn't want the war.
However, even those on the extreme-right-wing wouldn't want to just nuke a country and kill a bunch of people for no reason, as it wouldn't be a popular decision. The people who bring up "Hiroshima" and "Nagasaki" the most are people on the American left, like myself, who don't want to see that happen again. It would be an unpopular decision amongst the American people, therefore, even Bush wouldn't do something like that.
I know you're Greek, I thought you were supposed to understand Democracy. Did you guys invent it? OK, so you do know that "majority wins" right? OK, so the majority of the American people were in favor of the war, but that doesn't mean that everybody was or is. Like me. Like I've said, the rest of the world can go fuck itself, as far as I'm concerned. I don't want to spread democracy to anybody, but I was in the "minority" at the time of the Iraq war in this country. So, this idea that "all of us" knew anything is completely stupid on your part, because we are a nation made up of all kinds of races and ethnic groups and different mentalities. There are ideas that hold us together, but we don't agree on everything. Stop acting like we all were involved in some conspiracy. We weren't. Democracy works like that. I thought you'd know that. Just because I dont' wannabe in Iraq, doesn't mean that everybody doesn't want to be in Iraq
And no, India and Pakistan will blow each other up before they blow us up.
And all this time you have yet to explain why Barack Obama would be a better Democrat than Hillary Clinton, even though he has far less experience, has never had to face Republican attacks, and hasn't ever accomplished anything other than give pretty speeches, that obviously have won you over.
No, I don't watch Oprah. . . . um, I'm a guy.
And you know damn well you're far too nerdy to get away with throwing eggs at anybody. You and your friends wouldn't have the nuts to do anything to anybody except spread an internet virus or something. Anything else would result in YOU getting YOUR asses kicked.
One more question, have you ever kissed a girl?
And how thick was her unibrow and mustache?
Oh yeah, and tell your friends to keep worshipping American TV, music, and culture. We looooove watching you guys dressed like 50 Cent and Elvis and shit. WE get a big kick out of that.
TATA!!!
I'm off to actually have sex with a woman, something you'll probably never do!
You seem to know so much about Greece...have you been here before?
You seem to know so much about me...have I ever fucked you up the ass? Really,I can't remember...Wait! Is that you, 'sweet-ass' Timmy?
You seem to present 50-pennies as a role-model of your culture, is that all you got to show? Really? That's just sad :(
You seem to keep making things up in that imaginary fairy world you have created inside your skull : "We looooove watching you guys dressed like 50 Cent and Elvis and shit". I have never seen a person being dressed like pElvis or 50-yen in Greece, unless its halloween!
You seem to use 'irrelevant' Greek words like 'Diatrebe' and 'Democracy'. Are you retarded? Or better yet are you irrelevant?
You seem to be very ignorant of the Democracy we had in Ancient Greece since you dare compare it with the sham you're running in your pathetic country. Democracy means alot more than just majority...
You seem to be 10 years old, since you use expressions like 'the history of existence'. And that REALLY does NOT make ANY sense to me : "HISTORY will judge America as the richest country in the HISTORY of EXISTENCE and the most powerful country that has ever EXISTED." WTF! Are you by any chance implying that the HISTORICAL EXISTENCE OF HISTORY EXISTS IN A HISTORICAL EXISTING TIME CONTINUOUM OF HISTORICAL EXISTENCE? I always knew it but was too afraid to admit it! Am I speaking to a 10 year old? Really now. Did you get a stiffy while you were writing that shit? BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...tell us ONE intelligent thing -for once- that makes you proud to be an american McBurgerBoy.
You seem to be very ignorant of your huge deficit since you call your pathetic country 'rich'.
New York Times, May 2008 :
''After more than two years of a declining dollar and six years of Administration assurances that we have turned the corner, the trade deficit is a bigger problem than ever,'' said the Senate majority leader, Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia. ''We are in the sad situation of going from bad to worse.'' -----> WELL DONE!
From the C.I.A factbook 2007 :
"LONG-TERM problems include inadequate investment in economic
infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of
an aging population, sizable trade and budget deficits, and
stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups.
The merchandise trade deficit reached a record $847 billion
in 2007. Together, these problems caused a marked reduction
in the value and status of the dollar worldwide in 2007."
FANTASTIC! Now I understand why you won't come to Greece...you
cannot afford it with your lousy dollars. 1.0 euro is worth
$1.60 ! AHAHAHA! Who's rich now bitch?
You seem to either be drunk or high on drugz. WTF is that shit? "India and Pakistan will blow each other up before they blow us up." No sense at all...is Amy Crackhouse your sista?
You now seem to be 5 years old since you are asking me these questions : "have you ever kissed a girl?" - "And how thick was her unibrow and mustache?" Are you expecting me to take that shit seriously? WTF? Give me your mommy on da bastardly line kid, I'm gonna tell her to give you a proper spanking.
You seem to be very confused because obviously you don't always ACTUALLY have sex : "I'm off to actually have sex with a woman, something you'll probably never do!" Right! So yesterday you 'PRESUMABLY' had sex...it's ok I understand.
Unlike you I feel no need to prove anything here kid. You obviously need to reassert yourself by saying all that shit about fucking and driving SUV's and buying laptops and being the shit. Never in my life have I met one person that ACTUALLY got some pussy and then went to tell it to the world like you're doing here. Unless of course you're paying a hooker to get laid. Now get on your knees, suck my dick and earn your lunch monies lovaboy.
And for ONCE in your life be original and stop stealing from my posts. I sign off with TATA! you should sign off with RE(TATA)RDED!
TATA! :)
First off, are you on The Bastardly????
This site is dedicated to pussy, jackass, or did you just come on a site where you can see upskirt shots of Britney Spears and Audrina Patridge to talk politics? You're the one turning a site about celebrity gossip and tit shots into some kind of forum for your Anti-American bullshit. That's why I got mad at the post in the first place. I didn't come here for Obama propaganda, I came here, just like everybody else to see pictures of beautiful women and make fun of the latest Amy Winehouse pics. And I'm supposed to take you seriously? Mr. post-graduate student, who has nothing better to do, but assert his wannabe intellectual ego on a semi-porn board? Get the fuck outta here. Go to The Economist or CNN.com, if that's what you came here for.
The bottom line is, yes, America has some financial problems, but we're still richer and more powerful than the rest of you motherfuckers. And anybody who wanted to awake the beast could get annihilated, just like anybody who's ever been a serious threat to us. Vietnam, Iraq, Mogadishu, none of those were a threat to our existence. We were intervening in those situations, and most of the time shouldn't have even been involved.
And yes, I do ACTUALLY have sex. See, when you actually have a girlfriend that you live in the same house with. . . . . YOU HAVE SEX!!! And sometimes have sex EVERY DAY!!!! YEA!!!
I'm not like you Stavros or Niko or whatever the fuck your name is. I don't care about how smart you believe you are. I don't give a fuck about your arrogance. You know nothing about American politics, which is why you should stay your ass in Greece and leave the American politics to AMERICANS!!! You have no right to judge my people without knowing my people, which is exactly why I started talking about your hairy ass bitches. You didn't like that did you? You don't know us, just what you've heard or read.
You were ready to anoint Kennedy as a man with a "vision" that should've been carried out and had no idea that he put into place the system of "killing kids for oil" that you were boiling mad about in the first place. You don't seem to get that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are in the same political party and the only difference between them is their experience and the experience of the people working for them. You don't seem to get that through your extrememly thick skull. They vote exactly the same 90% of the time. You, like all the other politically immature "newbies" are mesmerized by a guy who's never accomplished a damn thing in his whole life that would indicate that he would be a great president, just because he makes "pretty speeches", and says what you want to here. Not knowing that the president doesn't even do half the shit that you think he's gonna do. There's two other branches of government, jackass!!!
You seem to fail to realize that regardless of who's elected, we're going to be in Iraq at least for another 4 years, because of the interests involved. The "War" itself was over in 2 months. Unlike what YOU stated, the American army ravaged the Iraqi Army pretty quickly. We're not even fighting the army anymore. Saddam and his kids are dead. The "war" is technically over. It's the "interests" that are being protected. It's all a "shell game" that they're running on. We aint goin' nowhere.
So, in endless need to put your overpriced education to use, you've imagined all these scenarios that have absolutely nothing to do with how the world actually works. Obama is on the extreme left wing of American politics, meaning that only about of a 1/5th of the people agree with all of his politics. If he loses, it wont be because he was Black, because General Colin Powell, who wasn't even mixed would've been elected president in 1996, if he had chosen to run. He made the decision not to run. Every political party in America tried to get him to run, because they knew he'd would've destroyed the competition. It will be because the people don't want to elect somebody on the political fringes of American politics.
Yes, he's a great guy. Yes, he inspires people and gives "pretty speeches", but there are millions of people in America, who don't agree with his politics. That's a fact.
And guess what? Fox News runs slanderous coverage of every Democrat. They've ran slanderous coverage of Hillary and Bill Clinton since the day they first turned on their fuckin' camers. They ran slanderous coverage of Howard Dean and Al Gore and John Kerry. Why the fuck are you watching Fox in the first fuckin' place. Most people in America don't take them seriously. We know they're a fuckin 'joke. And that's where you're going for your American news? You'd be better off watching "The Daily Show" With Jon Stewart.
All this other crap you're talking is irrelevant bullshit, that's not about anything other than jacking off your own over-inflated ego.
Nobody gives a fuck about your opinions, because you don't live here and you won't even be affected by most of what's going on. You can't just watch a few news programs or read a few books and feel like you've "mastered " American politics. You have to live here. You have to work here. You have to actually know the American people to make the judgements that you've made. Most of which are stereotypes based on Anti-American coverage that is frequently practiced on your continent.
You know not what you speak of, Niko.
And finally, nobody's stealing your fuckin' posts Niko, nobody gives a fuck about you or your arrogant posts.
I'm done with you Niko, good luck with the goat herding.
I said about your stupid post :
"Are you expecting me to take that shit seriously?"
In your next post you said :
"And I'm supposed to take you seriously?"
I said about you :
"Unlike you I feel no need to prove anything here kid. You obviously need to reassert yourself by saying all that shit about fucking and driving SUV's and buying laptops and being the shit."
In your next post you said :
"All this other crap you're talking is irrelevant bullshit, that's not about anything other than jacking off your own over-inflated ego."
You are a fucking retard little Timmy if you still think you are not copying my posts. COPY-PASTE MAGIC!
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You said :
"...nobody gives a fuck about you or your arrogant posts."
Yet you have spend a lot of time here trying to prove me wrong and trying to project your very rich and popular image. We learned that you drive a SUV, you have a new laptop, you get laid a lot, and last but not least that you fuck your sister, because there is no way an asshole like
you has a job and the money to support a household. If that is true, it just goes to show how fucked-up your country is. :)
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You said :
"And anybody who wanted to awake the beast could get annihilated, just like anybody who's ever been a serious threat to us. Vietnam, Iraq, Mogadishu, none of those were a threat to our existence. We were intervening in those situations, and most of the time shouldn't have even been involved." SO 'WHO HAS BEEN A THREAT TO YOU'? THAT'S RIGHT NOBODY!That thing with the beast made me laugh! NO-ONE has EVER been a threat to you. WHO is a threat to your existence apart from your own government? As you said, your gov/ment keeps sending young people to fight in countries that have not done you or cannot do you harm. On the one hand you mention countries you have actually invaded and on the other hand you say it was wrong to invade them because these countries were not real 'threats'. SO I ASK AGAIN : WHO IS THE REAL THREAT? You illiterate rednecks have to understand that there is NO such thing 'terrorism'and that you are NOT being threatened by anyone. Then you should get your army back home to celebrate one more DEFEAT. OK little Timmy?
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I watch fox online on Steven Colbert and the Daily Show with J. Steward...at least you got that right.
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I wonder, what kind of experience did bush have when he was elected for the first time? I still remember an interview -before he was elected for the first time- when a journalist kept asking him about people, politics and policies of other countries (including Iraq,Iran,Cuba...etc) and he didnt know SHIT! He actually asked the journalist if HE knew all this information. So apart from sucking his daddys cock and swallowing his fantastically 'intelligent' sperm bush seemed to know nothing of politics...And still he got elected. And when you assholes got a taste of his policies you voted for him a SECOND time!!! Only in america!
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You said :
"You were ready to anoint Kennedy as a man with a "vision" that should've been carried out and had no idea that he put into place the system of "killing kids for oil" that you were boiling mad about in the first place." Is that why you asked me if I would vote for another Kennedy? Because YOU mentioned him in the first place! You were trying to 'lure' me into saying that he was a 'saint'? WELL FUCK THIS BASTARD! I still remember his pussy-attitude against the Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis. And his expression during his meeting with Khrushchev! OH! fuck that was priceless. At least he did not ask for his daddy like bush does all the time. Fuck! you're such pussies. And don't dare 'go Bush on me' and make assumptions on what I was PLANNING to say or do. In my book, little Timmy, all americans (not only politicians) suffer from what the German NAZI called "Deutschland Uber Alles" and that is evident throughout your rantings...You people have formed the new Reich. If you knew history you would have realized that already. You are the scum and filth of the earth and your rants about domination, annihilation, DELETING other countries (how fucked up is that? saying that you will DELETE millions of lives? How would you feel if I told you I would come to your house and DELETE your family?) and nuclear war PROVE that you yourself are a fucking NAZI with no respect of peoples lives, rights and liberties. You are not Left-Wing you are a NAZI wannabe like ALL americans. You call yourself a leftist yet you know shit about Marx, Engels, Che Guevara, the Spanish Revolution...etc. You have to
KNOW what you are fighting for and then set out to fight in order to win it. The fact that you protested against the war in Iraq in 2003 for a couple of days does not mean that you REALIZED the significance of this event. And anyway, going to protests is a nice way to meet a couple of
horny environmentalist or activist chicks and get some pussy. Trust me I KNOW. :)
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"Nobody gives a fuck about your opinions..."
You have to understand little Timmy, that exactly becau