Haley Paige at AVN 2006 in Las Vegas
Wednesday, February 8th, 2006 around evening with martini & women in hand
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Haley Paige at AVN 2006 in Las VegasWednesday, February 8th, 2006 around evening with martini & women in hand 363 Scandalous Comments |
ok, its officially too much with the skin "actors" There are 40 year olds with better tits than that slut. Just give it a rest.
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natural or unnatural, saggy, ugly tits on disgusting cum-buckets is a waste of all our time. Please end it!!!!
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She's a 16 year old with 60 year old breasts.............. nice pick.................... not really............
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Yup make sense..
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eeeewwww
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puke
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Bleh whats going on with her stomach, she looks like an inflated beer barrel, or a barrel of cum i should say..
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man those breast are bad for some one so young........it just doesnt make sense........
unless she was like really fat and then slimmed down and decided, im gonna get payed for fucking loads of guys now to prove my worth, or some shit like that......
but them breast.......
the mind boggles
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All I'm going to say is nice outfit!! I know she's been taking a lot of flack so far! I tried to find the positive in this pic!
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This pic is really disturbing. She looks SO used up and nasty...she should just OD and get it over with.
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I agree that I have seen enough of these used up porn sluts for my lifetime. Enough please. Aside from that comment I have to say that this bitch has popped out a kid or two. her stomach has that used up babyfat roll look to it and her tits are all saggy. She is a nasty bitch! No more of them please...I beg you!
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Looks to be on the verge of pancake tits.
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Ah yes. But did she have grey teeth or brown teeth? That's the true measure of how used up the porn star is.
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she's not that bad, check her out in butt stuffing action here:
http://www.nsgalleries.com/hosted1/ns/gals/haley/index.php?id=100028
so yeah, she does need to do a few sit-ups.
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anyone of you assholes would love to fuck her!
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you guys are crazy- this chick shouldn't be in porn, she should be married. she doesn't belong in porn, thats why she doesn't 'fit'.
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i agree she doesn't belong in porn. she's a pretty girl and you can even tell she is "trying" to be a whore in her vids. it's not in her. she'll probably kill herself soon. lol. hope not!
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Leave the girl alone!!!! You have never met her or know anything about her. All you critics are doing is picking out her physical faults like youre all fucking perfect!!!!
You have no idea how hard it must be to end up in the porn industry as a girl and what circumstances shes gone through or grown up in. I've had the privelege of good parents, nurturing and money. But guess what? theres a lot of people out there that havent so BACK THE FUCK OFF HER!!!!
Remember, people are still people (persons)
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I lived with Haley Paige, real name Mariam Haily, for a year while we traveled together around Hawaii, New Zealand and Australia during 2002, and she was my absolute best friend and is a lot more than just a piece of meat...she has a really good and honest heart, sweet and loving perosnally and was very open minded and adventurous. The year I spent with her was one of my best years ever spent. I cared deeply for her, but due to my typical male stupidity I broke her heart and watched her leave Brisbane AU. and disappear out of my life. I have missed her every minute.
Michael Smith
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modt of you who wrote such odious comments about my breasts should find a real past time and get a fucking life, as it is, obviously my self confidence is not good to say the least, thank you for ruining my week you feeble assholes. yes, my breasts sag, do you think i dont know that?
i look at my self in the mirror everyday and hate them but refuse to get a breast job.
so you will be happy to know that i have basically quit performing and focusing on my studies, as fr the suicide coment, it does cross my mind. what do you expectwhen your dad let your uncle molest you from age 3 to 6 so he could borrow money. ive been through enough in my life and ive never treated anyone in the industry with disrespect, and i think it is fair to say i did not deserve those comments you fucking worthless cunts.
-haley
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Well I think Haley Paige is superhot. Whether that is her comment above for real or not.
Maybe some of you like those horrible fake sphere breasts but I like them natural and neat. I thought Haley was new when I saw her recently in a video so I didnt realise she was in the biz and gone again already! She was every pornstars ideal though. She did everything and she looked great doing it from what Ive seen.
If that is really Haley then well done for shouting down your critics. Their comments are cruel to say the least. Shame you wont being any more stuff.
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todos los malditos bastardos q se atreven a insultar a una chica tan linda como haley
no se imaginan siquiera como es ella .es linda humilde y muchas otras cosas
estoy seguro q ella es una niña q conoci en mexico(chihuahua) q se llamaba maryam irene cuando ambos teniamos 10 años no fuimos amigos pero siempre note q era muy buena persona me gustaria volver a verla algun dia .
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haley paige,you're the girl more beutiful i've ever seen,i love to see you in action 'cos you're different from other girls....my only wish is to see you some day and ask for an autograph.i always see all your movies and love all of them,my wife hates you but fuck her you're better than her every time i masturbate i only think of you.
love junior
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junior paige from brazil
haley that's me again...id like to ask you a picture with altograph(sure if you could)...my name is Reginaldo Junior- my adress is:rua(street) Jean Gabriel Villin,n.232,cep(postal code)04429-210,São Paulo,Brazil. i'd love you more than i ever did,thanks my baby good luck in every business.if you will not can send me sed a e-mail telling me why you couldn't....love you, thanks.
ps:forgive my english if i wrong something,i'm a poor young man and don't have how study,i learnt i little by myself...
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Hi Mike! Hola Jorge! I know you both, don't I? Yes, Haley lived in Chihuahua as a child. She's a true bicultural product, and I hope she's proud of it. And I entrusted her to Mike on her year-long journey down under. Then had to pay for her to come home when she needed to escape. Thanks for taking such good care of my baby, Mike! How's it going, senorita Haley? (I'm the most important man in Haley's life, and I hope she reads this.) Except for the bad story about your uncle, in which you said your parents looked the other way, you've managed to project your true sweet nature and loving heart. It's a hell of a shock to see where you've gone, and though I don't like it, I don't condemn you for it. I do believe that you could have chosen a more wholesome outlet for your beauty and talents. I don't think it's too late to redirect your course. If you need any help or encouragement, you know where to find me.
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Ever since the dawn of time us men have looked at women's bodies with selfish intentions judging breasts, ass, face, legs, hair etc. Porn is the modern-day extension of this, however it shouldn't be. Porn to alot of guys is about the fire in the performer's heart and the amount of sexual heat she creates, and Haley Paige is the best in the business.
JW
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Haley, I think you are absolutly FINE. As for all the cretins and their lame ass comments...the hell with 'em. Your breasts are obviously natural and I find them a terrific turn-on. There arre a million guys (like myself) who would love nothing more than to caress them. You take care and ALWAYS do what you think is right.
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fuck you all i happen to think she's a great performer
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Haley,
I think you are lovely and hope you do get out of porn. Good luck.
Nil
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To those of you who posted what did her mom do to raise such a slut and why does she look so used up, her bio online says she was molested by an uncle and her parents did nothing to stop it although they knew and then was consistently raped by gang members in her early pubescent years before turning to porn because it's all she probably thinks she's worth. Pretty comon histiry for pron stars and something to think about when you log online....
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Haley (Mariam?),
This comment has an email attached that I actually check, unlike the previous post. I'd love to hear from you sometime if you get a chance. I looked this site up not because I was trying to see you nude, but I was interested in your story. I sent you an email to a website a short while ago explaining. Anyhow, I'm thrilled to see that you are pursuing your studies. I hope that is really from you and you are persevering in every way. It gives me hope to know you are doing that. I don't mean to stare, but I think your breasts and the rest of you are entirely beautiful. I hope to God you don't really consider suicide. I believe you are going to do such good for so many people in the future I can't wait to know about it, so I hope you would contact me with updates.
Love, J
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Haley Paige passed from this life on August 21, 2007. In the company of Chico Wang. Who ya gonna blame?
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Kensabe? Are you certain of this? How do you know? I can't find anything about that anwhere on the 'net...
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So very certain. I'm her father. I buried her in Brentwood, California on August 30. There seems to be no word on her or Chico in the blogs. Anyone who knew her, I'd love to hear good stories of her; bad ones, too, I want to know more about her life in the last 3 years or so. Her mother and I (we're divorced) did not know she was in the business until just a few weeks before her passing. We did not judge her nor condemn her for her chosen path. We love her deeply, and she knows we do, even in death. And to set the record straight: she was NOT molested by her uncle. There was an incident with him, and it ended right there. Her parents did NOT give her up to a nasty uncle for rent. She was very young at the time. We lived in Mexico, the uncle lived in California. After the one incident, we never left her alone with him, and we seldom saw him until he died of a liver disease. My daughter is indeed as sweet and loving as many of you say she is. If you would like to see photos that I took of her funeral ceremony, go to this link: http://www.cometphotos.net/MaryamsCeremony.
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kEN,
I imagine this is odd for you talking about this with a stranger. The reason I started posting on this site was that I was back into a porn addiction that I have struggled with for years. I'm ashamed and sorry to say that I came across a clip of her at 19, probably one of the first she had involvement with, and it stopped me in my tracks. Something about her face was so pure and sweet, I couldn't continue. I looked up her name and came across stories about her life. I haven't been back into the addiction since. She really brought home the fact that she and the other girls are humans and deserve so much better. I tried looking for ways to contact her and tell her this. Especially after hearing how she was trying to follow her dreams and get out of porn. I hope you aren't offended by this but I'm taking your whole story with a grain of salt. For one, that link is inactive. Not that I think I have any right as a stranger to see her funeral, but it would be nice to see her in a picture other than what I've seen. All I could find anywhere regarding her passing was that shortly before the date you give, she was involved in an assault where this 'Chico' guy was arrested. Also, I found a Myspace site that she apparently set up with her last login date at 8/21. For the most part I believe you and don't think you should have to convince me. I'm incredibly sorry for your loss. I hope it helps to know that she helped me. That time I saw her that I told you about, was right around the date you say was her death. I believe she has been an angel to me. J
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Ken,
I just got that link to work. I'm very sorry I doubted you in the least and again am very sorry for your loss. I don't know what else to say.
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Sadly, Haley Paige passed away last month from a drug overdose. She will surely be missed and the details of her death are as sorted as the porn world that she chose to embrace.
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Kensabe - post an email address as I have some information that you might like to have concerning the death.
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Thank you for your stories and well wishes. I'll get you some photos of her. Here's my private email: comet_tale@yahoo.com. Wonderul story, JJ, and no offense at all. I'm an amateur photographer, here's a site with some of my work: http://cometphotos.shutterpoint.com.
Eager to hear from you frogman.
ken
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Here's a little album of photos over the past few years. I took some of them, others were taken on her travels in Australia and New Zealand.
http://www.shutterfly.com/view/pictures.jsp
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I guess that link goes to my sign-in page. Sorry. I'll find another way to share it with you.
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Here you go. Yep, that's Ken looking into the camera as Haley (M) glances the other way. http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=2DcOW7RixdO
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she was pregnant you stupid fuck holes!!!!!
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Ken,
Email sent. Call me.
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HOLY CRAP, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU USED TO LIVE IN BRISBANE!!!
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You guys are funny cause about 99% of you are fat and over 40 and wish you had a girl like that beside you. You sit there and judge this poor girl from the protection of cyber anonymity...go look at yourself in the mirror...bunch of judgemental asses...but you'll sit there and jerk off to her videos...won't ya...
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Well put, Woody!
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Quiet no longer - Ken check your email - subject "MARYAM"
Every bio launches straight into the 300 movies but she was doing porn exclusively for internet sites thread . I can'whatAs jj said, it must seem superficial
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From an interview with Scott Faynor
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From an interview with Scott Faynor:
PAIGE: I got a job doing pr for a travel web site. I went to Hawaii for 2 months. Everything was great. Then we went New Zealand. The guy I was working for, who up until then was a perfect boss, all of a sudden flipped out and stole my passport, credit cards and money and told me I wasn’t allowed to leave his site. My Emails were screened.
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She is a beautiful person.. With a great heart.. Let her be at rest please..
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Poor deal Haley, you deserved better from life. It's a pity God didn't take a worthless scumbag like big jgke instead.
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Sad, sad news.
I sincerely hope Miss Haley finds the peace in Heaven that seems to have eluded her here on earth.
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I am also saddened by the news of her death. She was very young and it is tragic. From reading interviews with her on various websites, she seemed like a woman who had plans, and was not the typical airhead. She was a very beautiful woman and had so much going for her.
R.I.P.
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Wow... ain't Karma great:
MORGAN HILL, Calif. — Inkyo Volt Hwang, aka Chico "Wanker" Wang, was found dead Sept. 29. Cause of death has not yet been determined, but police report his death is not considered suspicious.
Hwang was found lying half-out of his bed at an Economy Inn after themotel's manager was unable to reach him via telephone. Police said theywill release the cause of death once a toxicology report is completed............
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God Bless You Haley Paige (MIH).
Many won't know your fate as your videos continue to play
But maybe your story will change the industry one day
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I will say starting with the first comment on Wednesday, February 8, 2006 at 9:46 pm we can see why the industry is basically destructive.
The people in the videos are not the issue. It is those that profit and exploit the economics of the industry. Sure actresses and "talent" are paid etc, but does that alone make exploitation acceptable even if it passes for "legal"?
People who DO NOT exploit are obviously exempt. But time and time again, it is said that everyone knows who the abusers are but there's nothing you can really do about it since well, the abused still need to earn a living or the abused and/or potential victims can avoid abusers after or maybe before a bad experience.
Where's the accountability? Where's the enforcement? Where is the equity and the justice? Where is the fairness?
I really am glad that Haley RESPONDED to the attacks and was HONEST about what she felt. That comment alone - and I hope it really was her - is the reason I even wrote this.
There's nothing available now to show the comment attributed to her and shown Friday, March 2, 2007 at 9:03 am is falsely representing Haley Paige. So look at what she said, family allegations aside (* censors text - not in original):
"modt of you who wrote such odious comments about my breasts should find a real past time and get a fu*king life, as it is, obviously my self confidence is not good to say the least, thank you for ruining my week you feeble assholes. yes, my breasts sag, do you think i dont know that?
i look at my self in the mirror everyday and hate them but refuse to get a breast job.
so you will be happy to know that i have basically quit performing and focusing on my studies, as fr the suicide coment, it does cross my mind."
(what was said here is missing)
"ive been through enough in my life and ive never treated anyone in the industry with disrespect, and i think it is fair to say i did not deserve those comments you fu*king worthless cunts.
-haley"
Regardless of what you really think about her body she is absolutely right: She didn't deserve those comments. Even if she were alive today and happily in love. She never deserved those comments: It is fair to say and it was worth typing.
Since I have really decided to either help change or dismantle what passes for erotic entertainment I have observed many who claim that people advocating for women are really "saveahoes" just seeking the company/sex of the women they support . Often, those who want to give people that label end up being someone who earns a living from what "saveahoes" and actresses (note no quotes) call exploitation.
Granted, everyone has a right to defend their livelihood, but don't call someone a "saveahoe" just so they keep quiet about what is wrong with the indusry. If something is wrong: Fix it! "Saveahoe" is so blatantly disrespectful. No woman is a "hoe" PERIOD and secondly any life in distress is worth saving. If nothing is wrong then there is no need for the "save" (rescue) is there? Obviously there is a need and namecalling is not the answer.
Are all actresses claiming rape/exploitation? Obviously not. Do they all want a clique of "saveahoes" speaking on their behalf or claiming to represent them? I highly doubt that. Does this mean there is no abuse in the industry EVER? Impossible!
What is obvious, and I'll only cite the Madison Scott incident, is that rape - as in the non porn world - is still underreported but even worse, carries more stigma because a woman is a porn actress, or active or famous in the sex industry she somehow has lost the ability to decide/know what sex is acceptable/consensual and what is not. If Madison was supposed to do a full sex scene and it went bad, one could doubt her story based on what the alleged rapist's legal rep claimed that her "sources were not checked" and her story was accepted without verification. OK.
So why is the only proof to show that she's a liar is what others claim? They all speak the truth? All the time? Even if it could mean they go to jail or become registered sex offenders? Really? We are just to believe that she is just a liar who was in that place on that day at that time? Impossible.
So is Madison Scott a:
Disgruntled employee? Maybe. Liar? Doubtful. Rape victim? Possible.
The whole thing looks like the alleged abuse was negligent if not intentional and the response was not a search for truth but rather an attempt at character assassination through legal representation.
Lawyers can claim whatever, it's their job & duty to defend/protect their client. We all deserve the truth. If she wasn't raped, we should know. If she was raped, we should know. Then, whatever we know, we should choose to act accordingly & responsibly.
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R.I.P Haley Paige. :(
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---> farmgirl, big jgke, Jacquelyn, Pottymouth, Melissa...
Why are people so rude?
She really didn't deserve those negative comments. :(
She was very beautiful and natural. Look how sad she was when she saw those comments.
I really miss her! :(
R.I.P. Maryam Irene Haley.
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she was so sexy, i dreamed about her.
RIP Haley
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I was very sad to hear that Maryam had passed. There was something very special about that girl eventhough I never met her. RIP VILA I FRID MARYAM
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Poor girl, she had a rough life judging by what I've read.
Chico was only the last in a long line...
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I was doing a Google on restaurants one day for my copywriting assignment course. I googled restaurants in Texas and stumbled upon an article in a blog that read "Porn Star Dies in Hotel" on the page. I wish I could say which website said this but was lost with this male ego I had, sayin to self at time and wondering " ...how hot was she?"
So needless to say, clicked on it and saw a very attractive woman in various photos of her career. Although at this point, yes I saw her body, but wondered as well why such beautiful girl could do this when she can be modeling professionally. I just saw these beautiful eyes and smile. It was all I really needed to see and thought, "What the Hell?!. What is she doing?"
Then as I began to search for her, interview in one of those sites appeared. She said she loved folk music cus her parents were sort of like "hippie parents". She was hoping to have kids one day and perform her duties as home maker, saying she was not satisfied with how many females are so into the "womens rights movement" and not willing to be at home to take care and raise their kids.
Im not trying to build an opinion on this here, understand, just gave me impression that besides struggling into this dangerous world of adult film she only knew at time, this young sweet lady had dreams of her own and I Honestly cried once I realized she was no longer with us as I kept forgetting this as I read on the interview. I knew I clicked on article within the link that read "Porn Star Dies in Hotel" , but somehow along her interview ,I had forgotten about that. Her article made me believe she was alive for a moment, that ONE single moment. I got to know a bit of the soul of this beautiful Earth Princess, who was only in need for an ear to listen and make her words to be heard.
I hope THOSE who came into this blog and chastised Mariam know that you need to set your own directives straight about judging people because you will never know when you will find yourself in the years to come as far as that goes! It doesn't matter how much money you have or how many diplomas you have! If LIFE nips you in the butt, (and it has its way of doing so for everyone from time to time!), think about THIS: How would you feel if the littlest judgement came at you? (and it will!) Judgement should never be for us to choose. You wanna spread judgement? Go Ahead but rest assured, you are not perfect yourself!
I'm sorry, just so mad at ppl for saying such bad things about this sweet young lady.
Mariam, as you pass throughout all our mortal lives, I'll only say this to you (because while so many great ppl spoke for you in here, I know you're here laughing), not at what they said but of the iceberg ahead in front of them. I hope there is newfound life you discovered for yourself in this afterlife and realize this is just the tip of the iceberg!
But this iceberg doesn't define you, I don't think. As a matter of fact I think you've moved on to a differnent kind of iceberg, where only your true grace and soul will thrive on for those willing to listen and learn about the fundamental values about being Human and knowing truth from what we all seem to know now!
Rest well, Mariam.
SIncerely
AceMaster
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Does anyone have a username and password that will allow me to view the photos that Maryam's father listed as MaryamsCeremony? Apperentaly cometphotos.net is not allowing new membership. I have always been a huge fan of hers, and as depressing as it is, feel as though I have to see them. Thanks in adavance.
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Thank you AceMaster for your beautiful tribute to my daughter. Even though it was a shock to learn about her career just a month or two before her passing, I feel honored and touched by the outpourings from people who knew her personally and through her career. I know she would have made it in any medium, and I can't help but be sorry she chose the adult industry, because from a number of posts from dozens of people who have written about her, it is my understanding that the industry is often destructive and dangerous. Who knows if she would have met a man like Inkyo Hwang in another lifestyle, in another part of town, in another profession. But there's little doubt that his influence decreased her quality of life, sapped her reserve of self-confidence and will power, and in some measure led to the circumstances that ended her life.
I don't blame the industry directly for my daughter's death, but I agree with many who have given the opinion that for women especially, the adult industry is demeaning and soul-destroying, and in the case of a trusting and somewhat innocent young woman, it is a potential death trap.
Maryam should not have died when she did, should not have been subjected to the cruel mistreatment by Hwang. She made choices that she was responsible for, yet she had few safety nets to keep her from falling into oblivion. I feel remorse for not rescuing my daughter. Hindsight lays our hearts out to dry, we cannot escape opportunities lost. Others have mentioned they should have done more to provide her a lifeline. In the end, we are all losers for having failed her. But winners for having known her, for having loved her, and for remembering her.
Again, I thank you all, and I will continue to visit with you and answer your questions about her, so that her sweetness will come back to us in memories smiled on and in light-filled dreams.
HaleyFan1000, this is the link to her funeral photos. If you have trouble getting to the site, let me know. http://www1.snapfish.com/share/p=126291193723554067/l=323717632/g=100125...
Most of the people at the funeral ceremony were uncles, aunts, and cousins on her mother's side. I took all the photos. I'm not in any of them. Her mother appears often in the photos. She has short brown hair and wears glasses.
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Seems the link works. Correction about her mom: only in a few photos is she wearing glasses.
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Thank you so much for sharing Kensabe. I don't know why but I felt like I needed to see that.
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Just learned she passed away tonight. It made me sad. Thanks for sharing the pictures of her in New Zealand and her funeral. She was very beautiful. I'm not sure why people were so cruel about her picture. Rest in peace Maryam. Thanks for the entertainment.
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I am a former Porn Addict. I say former, because from this day forward I am going to be free of this horrible destructive addiction. And Maryam is helping me to realize how wrong it is! (I'll explain this in a minute) As an addict, I've lost connection with how to be intimate with my girlfriend in a healthy loving way, I can't always look at a women without impure disgusting thoughts creeping into my head about them and it has actually lead to me and my girlfriend falling out of the love. She cheated on me because she found out about my addiction to porn, something I at the time didn't consider "cheating" BUT IT IS!!! IT IS WRONG!! The people on the other end of the screen are real as you can see, and live VERY SAD AND TORTURED LIVES. NONE of them are happy, and we are led to believe in the lie that the porn industry sells us, and that the girls want to be there and that they love what they are doing. THIS COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
Today I found "The truth about the fantasy of porn" An article written by former porn star Shelley Lubben. After I read it, I felt disgusted to my stomach with myself. How could I actually have believed in the lies I was being told all this time? Just an innocent fantasy!?!? ANYTHING BUT!!! I then went to Shelly's Website, and Myspace page, and saw a slideshow on all the actresses who have died tragically as a result of this hideous and deceptive industry, and the prostitute trade, and I saw that Haley was the newest one to die this way tragically, however the picture this time was not of Haley, it was of her coffin. That really drove it home. Then I came to this site, and felt disgusted at seeing the picture above and wished I could just see a picture of her looking decent, the way I'm sure she wished she wanted to. Because she was a person with all the same thoughts as you or I and with dreams just like you and I, but she was not as fortunate as you and I. And then I saw all the comments people were making and that made me soooooooo angry! I'm angry that people think this way about women, like they are nothing but objects, (sagging breasts, must be "perfect" like a product. Hey guess what! sagging breasts are f*ing natural! I think they are more attractive because they are natural! But I don't want to look at her that way anymore. She doesn't deserve me violating her body by looking at it without her permission.) that I believed in these lies too, but most of all that these poor girls are being abused, exploited, used up, thrown out, treated like garbage, forced to do things they can not stand, and eventually that they feel there is no other alternative then to kill themselves. HOW DARE WE!! She is beautiful, and I know that despite all the torture and destruction she had to endure, she had a beautiful soul. And she never even got the chance to find her dreams, AND IT IS COMPLETELY UNFAIR!!! Do yourselves a favor people and look up Shelley Lubben. Find out the truth about this industry. Maryam you were a beautiful person, and you deserved so much better. I am so sorry you had to leave us too early in life! But know that your death did not happen in vein! You are helping me! And I hope your story will help many others!
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I wack off atleast once or twice a day to lesbian porn. Am I an addict?
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That's sad news, I didn't even know she died. That picture is pretty distasteful for this subject.
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I whack it pretty much every day after a lengthy internet porn downloading session. I wonder if I need to cut back?
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the pic was posted like 1.5yrs earlier...
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I don't think the porn industry has gotten too distasteful LOL. Have you seen the Cum Fart Cocktails series LOL? In one video about 4 guys blow a nut in one girls but hole, and then another girl drinks the spooge out of it. How the fuck do they get these girls to do this stuff? THey must pay them a lot or the girls are just stupid hoes.
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rest in peace!
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Just read the sad news tonight..
She was beautiful. She IS beautiful.
Strength to the parents on these times...
RIP and may u have it better wherever u roam...
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I posted this in another area of Bastardly.com and felt it worthy to post here as well.
Wow! I had no idea that Bastardly.com attracted so many worthless pieces of shit. You know who you are…the ones who feel the need to be so heartless when it comes to a little girl lost. Whether you want to admit it not…Haley was a daughter, possibly a sister, a granddaughter, or an aunt…she could have been related to you and you feel the need to defile her in her death. How fucking pathetic are you?!? I wasn’t friends with Haley and I never met her…I would guess that she wouldn’t mind if you were rubbing one out to her (even if it were 3 or 4 times a day)…if you did so I would guess that she would feel that she did a job well done…but to talk shit about her in her passing…how pathetic! Those of you that feel the need to sling arrows...I would guess are 40+ years of age and 20+ pounds overwheight and don’t have a wife or girlfriend…now who is the pathetic one…you or Haley? If the shoe fits…or the shit sticks!!! :-)
The reality is that thousands (possibly millions) of people know who Haley is and out of those numbers…hundreds (possibly thousands) of people will wish Haley well and have her in their prayers…whose going to be there for you (those throwing mud at Haley) when you pass from this life to the other (not as many as Haley...I can assure you of that)?
Whatever happened to the old adage…if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all?
Haley, rest in peace. May your family find peace in your passing.
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On this day I found out about what happened to Haley (Maryam). It is hard to believe !!
After reading some of the posts of this list , its clear to me that I wasn't the only one who could see the loving, kind-hearted personality of Haley shining through. It is so strong in her that anyone who is the least bit receptive senses it immediately upon seeing her. Its in her face.
Earlier this year (on August 10 , to be precise) I sent her a short e-mail message describing my feeling that the porn industry is no good for her. I actually offered her to come work for my company (www.racingteampaca.com) if quitting the industry would cause her financial troubles.
Little did I know then that she was involved with this porn "director" chico wang ( a man with a history of violence toward women )
I never got a reply to my message , maybe she never even got to read it !
It seems like often the kindest folks get the roughest deals in this life. It should, off course, be the assholes who get the roughest deals.
Some of the things that bother me : Her father has posted on this board that her uncle
( in another interview she says he molested her for years during her childhood , and her father "borrowed" her to him because he needed $$$ !! ) only harassed her once , and measures were taken. Yea, right. Then in another post on this board he (her father) descibes himself as "the most important man in haley's life" ??!! One post later he claims he didnt know she was working in porn until a couple of months ago. She was working in porn SINCE 2002 !!! How can you be an important, or valuable man in her life if you didnt even KNOW that ??!! Then it gets worse : on another website he stated that she was buried in Brentwood (one of the very richest areas of Los Angeles, right up there with malibu, beverly hills and bel air). You are rich-as-fuck and you let your daughter work in porn to make a living ?? In the same town you're living in ?? Now if you were a poor Welshman living in a rainy village in Scotland, without TV or internet , I could understand you didnt know about it and/or were not able to help. But you are in the same city !! Not just in the same city, in the richest part of that city !! And she is working in porn , taking heroin !
And then there is the guy on this board who claims to have travelled Australia with her for a year. On another site she talks about someone she was travelling in Australia with (this was before she got into porn) who basically went apeshit on her, stole her money and her credit cards and left her stranded there ! In his post here , this guy does admit he mistreated her, but remains vague about it. What the hell were you thinking, man ??!!
Maryam (Haley) , I ponder about what would have happened if you had read , and replied positively to my e-mail (I still have the message !!)
It is clear to me we could have created a beautiful , peaceful and joyful life for you , and by extension , for me beside you. A woman such as you I would love to be in my life.
And no, a-holes, I am not talking about her boobs or legs , I am talking about the heart that shines in the face.
Probably she would have been very reluctant to marry, because another guy in that porn industry tricked her into marriage before, just so he could get his green card. He tricked her into believing he had feelings for her so her could get that fucking card.
Really , it seems like the kindest hearts get the roughest deals in this life.
Maybe I should be her angel of vengeance now and get even with all the assholes that did things to hurt her.
Who really knows what happens when we die ? Hopefully I will meet you one day , Maryam.
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Hey It's Wrong, I hear your heart felt plea to others to stop watching porn, however you need to understand that it's called Supply & Demand... their is a demand for porn and their will be people making more of it.
The women who choose to be in porn, do so at their own choice whether they are in a bad situation at the time or mixing with the wrong crowd, everyone makes a choice of the path their lives will go down. I've made a shit load of mistakes in my short life and will continue to learn from these mistakes, so I can show the way for my kids. However everyone must do this and go through this process, some unfortunately will make decisions which will lead them into porn or violence, we as people cannot stop these decisions being made. Everyone has a right.
Now if these women choose to be exploited, that's a choice which I wouldn't want my daughter to make and will do all that's humanly possible to create many other paths, so this will be a very remote option for her.
Personally I enjoy porn but I'm not blind to the fact that some women in the industry really shouldn't be there and could quite possibly end up in a bad situation and possibly leading to their early demise. My frame of mind is not to make a judgement call on any of them, I simply watch Porn for Porn and will not complicate this by thinking such thoughts. As some women would actually enjoy being with many men and they are fulfilling their needs in the industry.
So Shelley Lubben has a slideshow of all the deceased Porn stars, lets do some general thinking on this, firstly the Porn stars shown who have died in a car accident is unnecessary, as this can happen to anyone. This is just to make the overall figure look worse, lets weigh up how many porn movies are released every year and then think of all on the internet that are via site purchase, then all the women contributing their skills to the industry and over all these years, we have a very small list of unfortunate situations.
The music industry could be seen as a terrible industry to, lets have a slideshow for all the deaths related to overdoses and suicides, we can then start to realise it's more about modern society and the pressures of life than blaming everything on 1 industry.
Let's not try to sway peoples thoughts, lets all educate ourselves and what we should or shouldn't do and then go to bed with a clear mind, I'm not perfect, though I have never harmed a person and never will, I also make clear decisions about my life ahead.
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Dear Nighthawk,
Get your Brentwoods straight. Maryam was buried in Brentwood, Contra Costa County. No one in her family has any money. We lived very simply in Mexico as well as a year in Canada. Our wealth was in our friends and our experiences. Are you a father? Can you not understand how close a father's relationship is with his daughter yet he's left in the dark about her private life when she becomes an adult? I'm sorry to call you out, but your ignorance is blatant. Other than that, I truly thank you for thinking of her well being and offering her a helping hand.
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I just knew today what went through with Haley, I mean, Maryam. Of course, I knew her for her... Work, if I may say so.
I am about her age, and when I saw her for the first time, I asked the same question that so many people made here... Why!? She always seemed a bit out of context, she was just a sweet girl... Of course, she had a beautiful figure (nevermind the saggy or not commentaries), and it's sad to think that here beautiful looks and figure was also what led her to where she is now, unfortunatelly...
I quite don't remember why I ended up in this page... When surfing the net I saw that Maryam died, I started surfing all these pages, over and over... And a dosis of reallity just slammed right in my face. I saw the tribute on Youtube, I saw her father's pictures (by the way, I liked a lot your job, from an amateur photographer to another, although you are infinite times greater than me, of course...), I saw...
The life of a young girl crossing right between my eyes. And I felt sad, and began to think that in a way, I also contributed to the death of this girl! I'm not a heavy porn consumer, but still, I see it sometimes. And all porn consumers, heavy or not, in a macroeconomics point of view, are guilty Maryam's death, because we support this business, and what it has to give to the actors and actresses... Diseases, human misery, you name it. I cannot quite express what I am feeling today, but one thing I am sure... When I'll look again at a movie or picture (If I ever do it again...) I will not forget the soothing, human face of Maryam, and what the death of her all ment to me today.
I am really overwhelmed, filled with stange feelings, and honestly, Kensabe, although I feel your pain, I cannot quite still understand how you didn't see this earlier, I think that you at least should ask your daughter how or what was her work, what she was doing then... I'm truly sorry, but I cannot understand how a father doesn't see how things were going wrong... But maybe someday I'll will.
My last word is to you, Haley /Maryam... Sorry for the infinitesimal but important bit in what I also contributed for your death. I hope that wherever you are, you finally found peace. And If I could have made something or somehow to stop all this process, I would.
I am also happy that in the end you found the right path. In resume, I really feel sorry for everything that happened, and I'll remember you as an intelligent, charming woman.
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Thors,
That was a beautiful tribute, and I thank you for your kind thoughts and heartfelt sentiments. I'd like to tell you a little about our relationship. Maryam and I were very close spiritually, and although we shared many thoughts and ideas, she usually protected me from the unsavory aspects of her life. For nearly 5 years she told me she worked for a modeling agency as an assistant, and I had no reason to disbelieve her. Not long after she got into the business I moved to Oregon, and we only saw each other 3 or 4 times. She visited me once in Oregon, I saw her a couple of times in California. On our last visit in California, in 2006, I met Chico Wang. I did not know what her business was then, though I was worried about her lifestyle with Chico. She told me that he supported her and that he made a lot of money in a legitimate business. I hoped to talk to her later about it, but that was the last time I saw her alive. There was only one moment when I might have guessed her involvement in the adult business, and that was when she told me was going to direct an adult movie. Not act in it, she said, but direct it. She offered to give me a job as a still photographer, though I didn't take her up on it. I'm sure I would have learned a lot if I had. But as far as I was concerned, her professional life was hers, and I gave her time and space to talk to me at a later time. She often said she had some things she wanted to talk about, and I was curious, but respected her time table for telling me.
It was Chico, actually, who broke the news, in a gross and disrespectful way. And he broke the news to Maryam's mother in the same tasteless way. Then Maryam wrote a little, just enough for me to look up her life online, and we started to discuss it by email. But those were the final days of her life, and before long she was dead, and I've had to piece her story together through these blogs and forums.
In a way I am deeply proud of my daughter for having achieved fame and notoriety, and though I cannot tolerate looking at her professional poses, I don't consider her less of a woman, less of a person, less of a daughter for the medium she chose to star in. In fact, hearing from dozens of people who either knew her in her professional life or who knew her through her scenes, I feel vindicated as a father and a friend that she fulfilled a purpose in her short life that most of us fail to achieve. She touched people's hearts, often in odd ways, and she planted a part of herself in those people, so that she will be remembered and admired far past the time that her earthly body will remain intact in its tomb.
Someone asked me to write a book about her, and I think there will be presentations of her life in the years to come, both in book form and perhaps in film. I have a part of the story that most of you don't have. And you have a part of it that I don't. Someday the two stories will be woven into one.
I think to know Maryam you have to know me. But you have to remember that she protected both sides from each other. She didn't really want her father to know about you, and by the same token, she hid her father from her friends and fans. Hence, you got half made-up stories and vague allusions. And I would have left it at that, except you (her fans and friends) have expressed so much love and tenderness, I feel you need to know a little more. A little more about me in order to know a lot more about her.
Keep her sweetness alive my friends. If you will.
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I feel ashamed of myself for watching porn... I don't think it is a case of being completely unaware of what goes on behind closed doors within the porn idustry or being naive. But rather a sense of escapism. Porn makes it all look good and fun and easy (please excuse my choice of words), whereas nothing could be further from the truth. Trying to escape my troubles and enjoy what I thought was a harmless hobby, I have indirectly helped in the demise of a person. It's all too easy to sit there and not think of the consequences, but I guess a lot of us are now realising this. It's just horrible that it has taken the passing away of someone for me to finally realise this.
I will never be able to look the same at Maryam or any other actress within the business. As for previous unthoughtful comments... beautiful, that's my thoughts on her. & that's now how I will remember her.
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i just found out today haley died. rip haley .i thought you were beutiful inside and out .all anybody had to do was look at that sweet smiling face of yours to know that there was still a little girl inside that just wanted to be loved .
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I did not know Haley (i am just a faraway fan), but I feel her loss greatly. That photo by the way is quite unintentionally one of the saddest I have seen.
To her father, thanks for sharing the photos and the personal details. I hope you still retain happy memories of your daughter; I think if she had lasted for a few more years, she would have outgrown the drugs and porn. She just got caught up in something bad. The tragedy of the situation is that Haley could have not foreseen the consequences, both of her death and its effect on people who knew her and people who didn't.
Here are some reflections.
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/?p=83399645
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Wow, these forums attract a lot of bastards. She was nice and I prefer natural breasts. She was also very intelligent for the business she was in and had an interesting life and worked for good causes. The world will miss her.
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F* awful. This world is mad. That picture of her...
Sh*!
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Kensabe,
Thank you for sharing with me (us) a part of your thoughts. Now I see more clearly why you didn't quite realise all of Maryam's parallel life. Of course, you could be a little suspicious, but it was her life, and as a grown woman she would give you more details when she was ready to do so.
Sincerely, I agree with the pride that you have in her. She is your daugher, and in a way, she touched people. A lot of them come here and give five minutes of their time to write a little message, a small tribute, you name it, and that means that she was trully different. If not more, at least she changed the way in wich many of us see the porn industry now.
I also saw Shelley Lubben's point of view on this industry, and I must say that I'm no less than shocked. For some of us it's all fun and games, until we see the other part. And now that I realized this... Well, I cannot say that the industry is stoppable, sex sells since the beginning of times, but I believe that it should be more regulated, in fields as diseases, rights,... you name it.
If people wanted to consume porn, at least they should have the guarantee that it would be produced in a sustainable way (I don't quite know if this is well written, but I guess the idea is here), and those films who would not be produced by sustainable and regulated companies would be excluded on everyone's preference... Some kind of seal of aprooval, some entity that would be created to regulate all this... And without shame, because I realise that the government closes his eyes on this subject. It's time for the Law to give true coverage of the reality, and accept that some things are here, and no matter how much you repress it, they still survive.
This is just an idea, I don't know quite well the porn world or industry, but I believe that consumers have an oppinion, and together, they are strong.
As for the Chico part, I don't understand how she was in love with this character, but how many of us can say that they haven't done a lot of stupid things when in love!? I thought so...
I deeply encourage you to write a book about Maryam. It would give people a dose of reality, at least, for them to think that many of those girls have a life story, and a loving family... If not, they are human, and no matter how low their life got, they are still worth of respect.
As for "our" part, I am able to help you, not that I know much about her (as I said, I saw her perhaps a couple of times), but I can do some research, or at least spread the message to others. She seemed truly a lovely girl, a bit shy in her own way (maybe because she was out of context...)... Let's make her memory live, to prevent that somewhere, somehow, another "Maryam" get's caught in the web of porn industry.
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I am so disgusted with myself right now. I watched a video of Maryam eariler and decided to look her up on wikipedia. When I noticed there was a date for her death on the page. I am so ashamed. I always thought she was beautiful and I could never understand why she was in porn. But reading into her life its clear what a sick and fucked up industry it is. And I fed into it. Like a peice of scum. I watched an interview with Maryam and I for once saw what I always knew was true. She was a bright and ambitious person and you can see her kind spirit on her face> She seemed more human than other women in the industry and thats whats so fucked about it. THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS. Being exploted for profit. I think I have come to new realization today. And how dare you worthless peices of shit make such horrible comments about this young girl? She is being seen in her rawest form. I would like to strip you all naked and have people judge you. And thats the reality of it. she is veiwd as an object. NOT AS A HUMAN BEING. I had tears in my eyes from hearing about her death. And also from shame that I have fed into this horrible machine. That takes young promsing girls and turns them into objects. No matter the circumstance around her death it is realted to the industry. I wish she could have had another chance. May you rest in peace Maryam.
In a way her death will shine light on what a hedious industry this is.
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I found out about Maryam's fate just today.
The more I research the deeper my sadness. There was such an innocence about her face. To her dad, though many months late, my condolences. To the dirt bags at the top of this thread, hope you are enjoying life, because she isn't.
May she rest in peace.
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Dear Ken,
I found out only a couple of days ago of Maryam’s (Haley’s) death. I have been a consumer of porn, which makes me sick to my stomach right now. I did see some of Maryam’s work and I must be honest, it never seemed right that she was in porn. I’m sure someone might ask, “Who does seem right� All I can say is, definitely not Maryam. Her innocence was palpable. Maybe that’s why I could never really watch her, I guess it took me out of the fantasy. But I did know who she was and when I found out she died it took my breath away. I have been so depressed the last 4 days. I have never followed porn stars careers or their personal life or tried to see them at conventions. It was fantasy for me. Unfortunately, fantasy has a strange way of colliding with reality. I have felt compelled the last few days, as it seems like a lot of her “fans†have done from reading message boards, to find out more about her life and death. I’m glad I did. I don’t think I can ever watch porn again. I haven’t been able to get those pictures you posted of your daughter out of my head. I have probably looked at them over a hundred times in 4 days. And all I keep thinking is “how did this beautiful, sweet girl wind up in porn?†Then I realize my own culpability as a consumer. From what I can piece together from the internet it seems Maryam had left porn just before her death. Its so sad that she wasn’t able to enjoy her new path before her death. I’m glad that she only directed one adult video because there is a difference between being exploited and being the exploiter. I’m not going to pretend that I knew her, but from everything I have seen and read about Maryam, I don’t think she had it in her to be the exploiter. From reading the message boards its seems like Maryam was as sweet as she looked in your pictures. I have not read one bad word about her. Maybe that’s why she was with that scum bag chico, maybe she was trying to “save†him. Anyway, it just seems like we all lost something special with Maryams passing. I am so sorry for you and your family. It really breaks my heart. Maybe something good can come from her death. I talked about this with friends. If we as a society don’t allow adults to drink until they are 21 why do we as a society allow 18 year olds to film sex scenes. They shouldn’t be allowed to make these kinds of life changing decisions at 18. Maybe if that had been a law Maryam would have found her path sooner and never wound up in porn, but I feel like a hypocrite for saying anything since I have watched it. RIP Maryam
Robert W.
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I have been looking all over the place for the final autopsy report, can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know what was the final cause of death??? Did chico kill Maryam or was it an OD? RIP Maryam.
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Kensabe
I am going to be honest with you, I think a lot of what you have had to say here is bullshit. From what I have been able to gather from the internet and Haley Paige interviews all the men in this young ladies life failed her miserably, most importantly her father. First, her family, and more importantly her father glossed over some very inappropriate behavior by her uncle. You state: “After the one incident, we never left her alone with him, and we seldom saw him until he died of a liver diseaseâ€. What? That wasn’t good enough. I'm sure on those one or two occasions when she had to see him it must have made her cringe. I don’t know what the inappropriate behavior was but it was bad enough that Haley mentioned it in several interviews. That sounds like it had a large impact on her life. She needed her family to stand up and prosecute this individual, this would of allowed Maryam (the victim) to feel safe and know her family had chosen her welfare over her uncles. Second, she goes off with her fathers friend (Michael Smith) for “business†for a year to parts all over the pacific. WTF… She doesn’t hear from her father for months on end? OMG. I understand how you could not have known about her basically being kidnapped by this guy, but please, not keeping close tabs on her? That was your JOB. The poor girl felt abandoned. But thanks for paying for her flight home, that was grand of you!!! Then, when she gets back to the USA, do you give her any kind of financial safty net? NO. You state “Our wealth was in our friends and our experiences.†That doesn’t pay the rent does it??? “The only reason Maryam started doing porn was for the MONEY. It’s the reason 99% of the women do porn. Here is a quote from Haley from a “Snowman raincoat†interview on 8/18/04, “I started to get into that because I needed some extra cash†and then later on in the interview she states, “I really thought about it, and you know, I ... my parents aren’t rich by any means, you know. And I have to look out for myself…actually didn’t think that I was ready, because honestly when I first started doing the solo stuff I’d go home cryingâ€. Wow, sounds like a girl who can’t wait to get into porn. Look I’m not saying you had to support her for the rest of her life but for the love of God, she was only 19 years old and didn’t have a hell of a lot of skill sets. And its not like she was lazy either, she did over 300 videos in her 5 years and who knows many web scenes. This was a girl who had been abused by at least two men in her young life, didn’t have any money, didn’t have any real job opportunities, and felt like she was on her own. All you had to do is provide her with a safty net until she found her path and you didn’t. I admit I don’t have kids yet, but when I do, nothing and I mean nothing will be more important than their welfare. If I have to work 3 jobs 16 hours a day they will never have to worry about putting a roof over their heads. UGHHHHHHHH
And you lied about only knowing about her porn career until only a couple of months before her death. Again she states in the Snowman’s Raincoat interview on 8/18/04 “My dad kinda knows. He doesn’t know that I’m still doing it. But he’s fine. He said he’ll love me no matter what. My mom doesn’t know…I actually mentioned it to him in kind of a subtle way. But he knew what I was getting at.†This was way before her directing job. She told you and yet you failed her again. This was her attempt to get you to get her the fuck out of porn, but you didn’t. When a girl trys to subtly tell her father that she is doing porn it’s a desperate cry for help. Kinda like when someone trys to kill themselves. HELP ME. Is that too god damn hard to figure out. REALLY… Is it any wonder why she wound up with a piece of shit like chico wanker wang? He may have been a sadistic ass but at least he wasn’t weak like every other influential male in her life. I’m sure that is why she was attracted to him.
Despite a horrible life, according to everything I can find out about her on the “internet†she was a really sweet girl. Just think what an amazing woman Maryam I. Haley could have been with great father. I know I’m being harsh but it’s the truth. Wanker wang may have killed her but you set everything in motion.
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Pats19-0. First off, congratulations on a brilliant year by your football team, i would like to see them run the table, now that my team, Tampa Bay, is out. However, I do think you are being pretty hard on Ken. You say yourself that your information is gathered from the internet, well so is mine and while i agree with you she had a rough time growing up, i don't think you can heap all the blame on her father. I don't think you can say Ken is lying about anything, you are assuming he knew about her career based on her statement where she just assumed that he knew. From everything i can gather, her parents only found out for sure when the news was broken to them by Wang "in a very disrespectful manner" after she ran away from him in June or July of 07.
I have seen children rebel from the most loving and supportive parents you could find so i wouldn't read into everything. I think that one of the main problems was that Maryam was a bad choice of boyfriends/husbands. If you read the transcript of her affidavit about her marriage to Csaba, she was in love with him and you can read how he used her. I think one of the saddest parts is that she made plans for Christmas day 2005, with a tree and presents etc for her husband who didn't even show up and she never even heard from him until a week into January. That's three huge events in one week this poor girl was deprived of, Christmas, her birthday and New Years. Csaba wasn't much of an upgrade either "In addition, my last boyfriend prior to Csaba was verbally, emotionally, mentally and physically abusive, only compounding my psychological distress."
Unfortunately, Maryam was a victim of a culmination of demons and events and i guess my point is, i don't think you can call out her father for being the only reason.
I never met Maryam but from everything i can find, away from her occupation, it sounds like we were two kindred souls. I only wish i had been given the opportunity to meet her. I hope she has found a better place and is now in peace.
My absolute heartfelt condolences to you Ken, and the entire family.
sincerely,
wytsox
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Sorry about ur Bucs, wytsox. I know i was harsh but i meant every word. But, don't think that i haven't been beating myself up either. Without me and everyone else who watches porn there wouldn't be any demand and thus money in it for women. I'm complicit too. Don't think i am not aware of this. BUT STILL...
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So what actualy happened to Haley and wanker - how did they die?
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Hi guys. I don't mind your tearing my fatherhood to pieces, though you're taking the jigsaw puzzle parts of Maryam's life (that you think you understand) and putting them together all topsy-turvy. What you need is a