Bastardly Fanmail! Racist Comments Edition!



WSW writes:



It's not really clever or funny to caption photos of Asians with moo-goo gai-pan accents. Maybe you think it's ok because of the racist spewing comments people post. Incidentally, I doubt you or your readers would think it was witty to put a caption about picking cotton or niggas next to pictures of Beyonce or Rhianna. I'm a first time visitor to your site, directed from Dlisted.com, but I don't think I'll be coming back. Your brand of being racist for cheap laughs isn't my cup of tea, but I'm sure I'm the only one. Your massive readership and numerous comments prove it.




Dave writes:



I am shocked to see the racist Asian posting that you have on your site.

It is disgusting, and you need to stop immediately. Think how it would sound to write a comparable item on a photo of an African American or Latino. Doesn't sound very good, does it?

Instead, I suggest trying harder at humor. I believe it will occupy most of your time.

worst,

Dave




joo writes:



I find your captions on Asians offensive because it's not funny, but rather ignorant.




Nellie writes:



I understand your site mocks people by putting silly sayings on their photos. I understand that it is suppose to be fun and light. However, your assumptions about all those of Asian descent are inappropriate, racist, and wrong.

It is really quite inappropriate not to be educated in today's society about what is racist. In fact, to assume that all those of Asian descent are non-English speaking accented and unintelligent is unwarrented, presumpuous, judgemental, and wrong.

I respectfully request the removal of these offensive and racist photos from your site.

Nellie


Deng yi xia! Tamen bu xihuan women shuohua.. arrgh... crap, duibuqi, I is a speakinged in a Chinese.. oh, not is good. Veddy soory to hen duo ren tingbudong wo shuohua! Ohhh... there I going again speakinged in a Chinese! Okay, I try to speakinged in English for yous. Dui, women bu shi clever.. awh son of a!.. I is thinked WSW not is returning to site. WSW, wo xing ni shi zhongguo ren?!?! Dave, we is will not stopping immediately. Duibuqui! Joo, we is nevered said we is a funny people. Please coming back to the site!!!! Nellie hen cong ming de ren!!! Very intelligent you speaks. Err... no, we is not removing offensive and racist photos from site. Confucius say, if no likey site then going other site! Get plenty in internet!

Oh... and not is sure but you is talking about all Bai Ling posts and this one, this one, this one, this one, this one....oh is too many to finds!

What better way to honor this post then with more pictures of Bai Ling!!!!

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hahahahaa

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 12:39pm
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Oh, but it's okay to mock everyone but Asians?
I'm going to order a sense of humor for WSW, Joo, Nellie and Dave.
Where can I ship same for next day delivery?

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 12:40pm
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Zing zing lookin' alright child! Y'all be feelin' dat shit too?

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 12:58pm
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It would be "ok" if Moe and Jackson actually mocked other races, but the only people they seem to mock are Asians. Moe and Jackson may point out that it's ok to do so because they are Asian, or at least Jackson is. However, there is a fine line between self-deprecation and blatant hatred of your race, and you've crossed the line. When people of other races read your Asian mocking entries, and agree, it's not self-deprecation, it's racism and you're perpetuating it.

I might point out that it's completely taboo to make fun of other races, but when you do it to Asians, it's somehow "ok". It's "ok" because Asian people are "submissive" and won't do anything about it, right? Thanks for perpetuating yet another stereotype.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:03pm
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I think making racist jokes is great. The more nigger, gook, slope, spic, wetback, coon, jiggaboo, kyke, craker jokes the better. Cheer up you fucktards that take this shit seriously. You must be a bunch of nigger lovers.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:11pm
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I'm black and I gotta laugh at that!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:20pm
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by the way, i'm offended when they refer to the readers as "bastards"... i mean, that's me right? i think the website should be renamed to "you guys" so i feel better

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:25pm
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I'll send a sense of humor to you too, Kayla.
Just forward your address.
Self-deprecation?
Lighten up.
No one forces you to visit this website.
If's it's so effin' offensive then go elsewhere.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:36pm
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I've already commented on this before and it's the one thing that really sours the site.

I don't care about the captions that mock the people in the photos really...but the accent thing is only on Asians. I don't see captions on anyone who is Latino or Black where the captions are imitating an accent or pumping the captions full of stereotypes.

I think it's became way too okay in our soceity to mock Asians but the same type of jokes cannot be said about other races.

Really now...would a lot of you here still be defending this if he had a picture of like Sam Jackson coming outside of a hotel with a caption that reads, "Yesum masa...Is gonna go an a pik's da cotton fo you bu Is need tu get ma fried chiken on firs!"

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:40pm
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Actually that sounds like Britney Spears ^^ instead of Sam Jackson.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:55pm
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re: 18
you 4got to mention the watermelon.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:01pm
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This site seems to be a pretty equal opportunity offender, when it comes to race. I heard a few digs about blacks, italians and arabs too. the only thing out of whack is the lack of insults at the male celebrities or just men in general. There seems to be this mindset of "women are the enemy" here I'll just say a little bit too frequently.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:03pm
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You are one ignorant fuck

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:06pm
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that comment from "Dave" was from a noob.
not ME. i think they're kinda funny.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:08pm
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OKOK!! I'll try to spread the bastardly love to other races...

i know i've done a lot of indian stuff before, so that's one race off my hitlist.

thanks for voicing your concerns everyone!! we love you, too!!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:10pm
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i like the asian accents, its funny as hell. plus them chinks and japs is be smarter than us stupid americans, so its only fair that we make fun of them for it

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:31pm
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what's wrong with little racism? fuck you all sensitive white people.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:33pm
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Personally I think the accent thing is stupid, I usually dont have the patience to read through them. But seeing how much they piss people off, you should keep doing them.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:36pm
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I don't see why asians are offended by the captions on photos with funny asian accents. Its not like they're calling out racist names. The Simpsons has Apu guy with funny Indian accent. since i'm an indian you are saying i should be offended by that? they make lame curry jokes here all the time. i go along with it. plus its not like this webside is owned by a big corporate of something..its couple of guys probably posting it form their home. not much you can do about changing it.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:43pm
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Jackson - I'm actually more offended by your poor grammar than I am of anything else.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:46pm
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STFU!! I'm sure when Jackson wrote those captions he wasn't thinking about making fun of the ENTIRE race, and he only did it for entertainment purposes. And isn't he asian too? or maybe that's Moe?

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:49pm
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you know what's sad, how long it took for you to write the words incorrectly. How long it take for you to come up with that paragraph like 2 hours, dumbass. It's one thing to be racist, its another thing to be funny. If it were funny I'd have no problem with it, your just being a tard.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 3:10pm
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Kayla it does seem Asians are ok to make fun of, and it seems okay because they don't make a big stink about it. It's not a stereotype, Asians tend to be quiet and submissive, at least in America. But while we make our little jokes they're quietly going to school and taking all the good jobs and will take over America, while dumb ass white people are talking about Britney Spears. Who will laugh then?

Fry ry! Fry ry!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 3:16pm
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wo ting de dong ni shuo de hua.

cao ni ma.

ni ting de dong wo shuo de hua ma?

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 3:57pm
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18, what is that, Jar Jar Binks?

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 4:02pm
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lmao. im asian and i love the funny captions! i just hate bai ling, you guys need to stop posting her. she's such an ugly rat-faced whore.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 4:27pm
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dude88
So what if your friend is Asian? There are bottom-feeders and idiots in every race. I laugh at the stupid people in my race, but I don't generalize and say that EVERYONE is like that, which is what Bastardly implies: all Asians speak with fobby accents.

senin
Your comment would apply if the racists entries were actually funny. Making of fun of bai ling 'cause she's stupid and ACTUALLY has an accent--kinda funny. Putting fobby captions for Asians who speak perfect English--racism and ignorance. There is a difference. It's true that no one is forcing me to come here, but at the same time it's also hypocritical for Bastardly to claim that they don't condone racism but then blatantly be racist with one group. This is the disclaimer at the bottom of the page:

Also, blatant racial & sexual slurs for no particular reason will not be condoned. BREAKING THE RULES: YOU WILL BE BANNED & appeals via email will not be considered.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 4:31pm
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bigdog

you forgot redneck and hick

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 4:38pm
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bai ling posts are always my favorite, just because of the captions.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 4:44pm
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Off the subject. But Im looking at Bai LIng and her head is shaped really wierd. She's an ugly woman with an ugly body. She looks like something out of the grudge.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:01pm
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Jackson pretty much owned them all.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:35pm
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#12 (It's different coming from your own race. My friends and I say the same type of shit. We're Asian, and we can talk about ourselves whenever the fuck we want...Black people even call themselves the N-word...It's just different when someone of another race does it. They don't understand you or your culture and they aren't relative enough to say that to you.)...I agree Kayla and #18.... I'm probably the only Asian on this site who visits here regularly. You guys don't get it because you're not Asian. It does irritate me when you guys post the idiot accents...I mean, it doesn't even make any fucking sense. Most of the time, the Asian celebrities posted here are half breeds or American born...How the hell would they have an accent? This site it just another good (or shall I say poor) example of how stupid and small-minded many people in this world are. Everyone here hates everyone...I mean, look at the way we talk about celebrities.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:47pm
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DISCLAIMER:

Oh...in case anyone points out that I said "half breed"...mind you, that I am also a "half breed"

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:48pm
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#34....so...are all white women loud, unfit, and ditzy? Are all Black women loud, rude, and bold? Are you FUCKING kidding me?
I don't think so. Those are stereotypes you DUMBASS.

I'm Asian...and I'm neither quiet, or submissive...See...stupid comments like that make Americans sound like idiots. This country is ahead of it's time when it comes to technology and social issues but we're still stuck on an issue that should have been killed hundreds of years ago.

Madonna, put your foot in you fucking mouth.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:53pm
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@starrica:
"Most of the time, the Asian celebrities posted here are half breeds or American born…How the hell would they have an accent?"

YES! That's the goddamn joke! Similarly, the "Maxim quotes" they make up aren't actually the way those chicks talk either. And Hayden Panettiere doesn't actually come on to old men. If you're taking the photo captions seriously or expecting them to reflect reality in anyway, I'm amazed it took you this long to be offended.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 6:00pm
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Look at all the little cyber-racists patting themselves on the back. Ignorant fucks.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 6:28pm
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those captions are annoying, i dont even read them because i cant understand what they say, please write normal.

i hate carlos mencia, now he is not funny and he is not even mexican, he makes fun of mexicans all the time.

starrica you are right, but someone said jackson was asian or moe

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 6:48pm
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kayla:
my asian friend has a pre-med degree and a bachelors in business. he just couldn't make up his mind where he would apply his intelligence while a student. the point is, he's not ignorant or stupid or a "bottom feeder" as you put it, he's just not a tight-wad biotch gettin all pissy about silly crap like this. he's a good man and a father, and he fakes the fobby accent when he pleases. i've learned all my fobby phrases from him and some of his buddies. they don't care, they see the humor... just please, do us allllll a favor, lighten up. plzzzz

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 7:25pm
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It's no wonder 'weird people' didn't last for shit back in the forum...dumb cunt.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 7:51pm
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Wooah...maybe I was wrong. Maybe the Ambrosio/Lima posts aren't the ones that get the most replies, but the racists ones are. You know, when the world finally dies that slow death on account of ignorance i.e pollution, war, hate, RACSIM, etc. do you really think that the small things you've done in your life are really going to have made a difference? You're quick to jump on the non-racist bandwagon, but I have yet to see someone actually stand up for it rather than whine about it. Maybe the reason the world isn't changing is because you're not the one changing it....wooah alright I'm ranting. I do that a lot, sorry. But think about it.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 8:30pm
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starrica I was going to cut you some slack for your overreaction. But you have a complex about being Asian so I guess you're suffering as it is. good. suffer. fuck you.

My post was not written beautifully but it was generally complimentary to Asians. I didn't use the word "all". Like "all asians" are this and that. I said "they tend to be"... but you have anger issues or something so you see what you want to see. Or, you are just bullshitting and are not even asian and are just trying to stir up racial shit because it's easy and fun.

Fact: Asians, of the Japanese or Chinese variety for example, tend to be quiet and submissive. Fact. Fact. Fact. Fact. Fact. Not stereotype. Fact. Fuck you.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 8:58pm
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I never read the captions, just look at the sexual lady who is Bai Ling. Rhymes with "schwing". Lover her, lover her.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 9:47pm
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jackson and moe:

fuck all these haters with their panties wedgied so far up their collective asses they use it as dental floss. If I am going to hate on you brilliant bahstahds it's for your obsession with Bai Ling. Ugly ass bitch with a vengeance.

keep up the funny shit.

The Bai Ling pics.. I can do without.

DOOM HAS SPOKEN

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 10:00pm
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oyevay

that is right

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 10:19pm
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dude88
It's easy to say that it's ok to make fun of Asian people when you're not Asian. You're not Asian so of course you don't get it. Being a bottom-feeder is not about your having a bachelor's degree or any degree for that matter, it's about character. I'm sure your friend is great and all, but how great is he that he perpetuates racism about his own race? If he jokes about it amongst other Asians--fine--they understand what it's like to be Asian. You don't.

Let me give you another example. Men can say that giving birth is no big deal 'cause they don't truly experience it, but really, no uterus, no opinion. So until someone calls you a "chink", or says things like "Will you love me long time baby", your opinion isn't anchored in reality, and you're simply speaking from a third person perspective, and it's always easier to speak from a distance. So please don't pretend that just because your friend does it that it's "ok". This goes to the men who are married to Asian women and say inane comments like "Oh, I understand what it's like to be Asian, my wife is Asian." You married one woman and now you understand all the nuances of her culture and what her people have gone through. Right.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 11:26pm
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Well said Kayla. ... Dude 88 and most of these people will never understand that. If they lived one week as an Asian, maybe they'd feel a little different. Stone - Need I not comment :). and Madonna...wtf? Complex about being Asian? Right? Well let's see...maybe I have a "complex" about being Asian because...let's see......I AM ONE. Nothing you said make a lick of fucking sense to me. You pretty much just said the same thing over. You could've saved your breath (or should I say typing skills). You guys just don't get it.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 1:28am
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Somebody please explain how this is racism. It doesn't harm, diminish or degrade a race. It's just a joke. People make jokes about me all the time -- if I got all butthurt every time somebody made a joke around me, I'd have a miserable life. Lots of people in this thread need to get laid IMO.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 1:54am
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"fuck all these haters with their panties wedgied so far up their collective asses they use it as dental floss."

*signs under that*

if you don't like it, go to disney.com !

Until you find out that disney toons are also racist *laughs*

Mod

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 5:16am
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Kayla:
In some people's opinion those comments are funny. Not everyone thinks the way you do. Your point about the disclaimer is lame: if you read it you will realize that it's meant for Bastardly commentors.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 9:11am
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Senin
Tell me, what is the difference if the Bastardly says racists things vs. if commentors say racists things? It's actually worst if the people who run this site start promoting racism on a regular basis 'cause they control the site. A commentor doesn't control the contents of this site. I can start promoting Hitler's propaganda all day, but the only likely thing that would happen is me getting blocked.

Stone
"It doesn’t harm, diminish or degrade a race."

Well, that's easy for you to say, isn't it? Let's say you have hard-working parents who came to the US with nothing but the clothes on their back. They do their best to survive in this country, but despite their best efforts, they can't master the English language and so they're given a hard time 'cause they can't "spek englit". All their other characteristics are ignored and they're boiled down to one thing: immigrants who can't speak English properly. Now tell me, have the parents been degraded or diminished?

Racism is a lack of discernment. To group individuals together and hate/disregard them for one characteristic. It is lazyness in thought, and that's what the bastardly is doing and that's why it upsets Asian people.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:20am
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These people are impossible to get through to. No matter what, they won't get it.
It's kinda funny how ignorant they are. Everything can't be made into a funny punchline, you know.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:30am
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The point, dear Kayla, is that it is their site to do with what they wish; however they are discouraging commentors from starting nasty hate arguments including name calling and using racial slurs and epithets when posting comments to each other.
Your opinion is not the only one that counts and as I last recall Freedom of Speech, including what one chooses to post on their website, runs rampant across the globe. Not everywhere, mind you, which is a shame.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:47am
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Who is this flatchested man?

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 3:12pm
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Hey Bastards,

Try this experiment, pick another race to focus on for a whole month and slander them.
A lot of non asians here claim it's all humor, but let's see what happens after a month of making fun of black people?

I'm sure it won't be funny for long....

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 3:15pm
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@ 64: "Everything can’t be made into a funny punchline, you know."

you're kidding, right?

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 3:18pm
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Senin
So it's ok to post racist things because it falls under freedom of speech? So you condone White Supremacy/Neo-Nazi sites, right?

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 4:01pm
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Can a nigga get some respect around here? Cracka

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 4:22pm
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Hey Kayla,

email me at tsuchiya@gmail.com please.

Your comments kicked a lot of asses.

Thx!

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 5:57pm
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#68- You're the smart one here, you tell me baby.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 7:12pm
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Starrica
In response to 69: I was being sarcastic.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 8:15pm
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wait...isn't jackson a chinese mexican?! i couldda swore he said it one of his posts.

as for moe...any guesses?

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 9:59pm
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Obviously the comments stereotype asians, and obviously that's gonna be offensive to some people of asian descent. It doesn't neccessarily make them unfunny, and it doesn't neccessarily make them wrong. Most jokes are made at the expense of some one or some group or other, but that doesn't make them evil in of itself. What matters is the intention of the person making the joke, and the interpretation of the humor by the person hearing it, right?

I can't imagine the comments were meant seriously, since the posters are apparently asian-american as well. And plenty of people, including many of asian background, seem to think they're funny. At the same time, Starrica and Kayla and anyone else of Asian descent have the right to an opinion and the right to find them offensive, and they certainly have an argument. But so does anyone who thinks that they're not that big a deal. No joke is gonna make everyone laugh.

A suggestion was made to switch the comments to stereotypes of other minorities so that'd we'd all get with the program. It seems like a bit of a false analogy. the fact is that pretty much anyone in America who's not a white, mid-to-upper class Protestant can make a case for racism or discrimination, either historical or ongoing....to some degree or other. Some groups can make a much stronger case than others. I'm sure you're right; white people can't understand what its like to be of asian background. But i'm equally sure that black americans (especially ones of Sudanese background, christ) could look at Asian-Americans, see that they have the highest household income and education attainment levels of ANY ethnic group in this country (including white folk), and make a case that maybe all minority suffering isn't equal, and that jokes about asian accents aren't the same thing as jokes about slavery, or ghettos, or genocide in Darfur. They might even think that your own comments were a bit insensitive or even racist.

That being said, if you actually gave a shit about effecting change, you probably wouldnt be wasting your time changing minds and getting all pissy on TheBastardly. You'd probably be outside.

Max

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 10:30pm
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wow...it took 78 comments to finally surface!

Good work, Max.

"No joke is gonna make everyone laugh."

That's our new motto.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 10:48pm
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Kayla:
What Max said and then some. What you refuse to comprehend is that every single theory you have put to the test has been shot down.
1.) Admit when you have misinterpreted.
3.) Get over it. Not everyone on the planet is out to malign. These guys are not out to start a race war.
4.) Relax. Breathe. Call the doctor. Take a Valium. Whatever it takes.
Remember, we are all human - you included, right?

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 11:25pm
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Senin
What have you shot me down? Max makes a good case, but you don't.

First thing you wrote: I need a sense of humor 'cause it's all done in jest.
I wrote: it's not funny. Guess what? Both answers are subjective and opinion based so neither one wins.

Second: I wrote: The disclaimer on this site is hypocritical 'cause Bastardly itself is racist.
You wrote: it's lame 'cause it's meant for commentors. So? It doesn't answer the main point of my argument: bastardly is hypocritical.

Third: I wrote: What's the difference if Bastardly is racist vs. commentors being racist?
You: Well, you didn't actually answer this question.
Then I wrote: It's worse if Bastardly does it 'cause they're in a position of power.
You wrote: Bastardly can do whatever it wants 'cause it's free speech.

Fourth: I wrote: so racism is ok as long as it falls under free speech and neo-nazi websites are ok, right?
You: Still have not answered the question.

Tell me: how have you "shot" me down? By the way, no one forces me to come to this website, but it's not exactly labeled "Asian Hating Website", is it? I actually like Bastardly, but really, it IS offensive and I would like to visit Bastardly without the side of racism. And as reader, it is infuriating to see Bastardly mocking those who do find it offensive, especially when many of those responding ARE Asian. I guess Bastardly panders to a non-Asian demographic. And this is an aside: when was the last time that Bastardly was willing to post pictures of really beautiful Asian women like Song Hye Gyo? No, Bastardly prefers to set the standard at Bai Ling for some reason.

As for Max:
How do you know that I'm not "effecting" change? Visiting Bastardly on a daily basis takes about 10 minutes. The occasional controversial posts take up more time, but that's pretty rare. Furthermore, what is the difference with arguing with a bunch of Bastardly readers vs. writing on a more, "effective" site, say Washingtonpost (which I do btw)? Bastardly readers are just as much of an audience as Washingtonpost readers, and probably in even more need of reading dissident, politically corrrect view points than WP readers. I know that there are elitists here, but really, your implications about Bastardly readers are pretty bad. I wouldn't be so quick to call Max a friend, Senin.

As for your argument: basically, it's all relative, right? So racism is just relative and no definition can ever be made as to what is really offensive and all behavior should be tolerated because only some groups find it offensive while others don't. Sorry, but this is just sophistry when you assert that it's ok based on relativity. There are lines being crossed, but neither Bastardly nor some of its readers are willing to acknowledge it, although I should add that you do.

If this was done to any other group it would NOT be ok, but it's ok because Asian people have "historically" taken it, and that's why we're making a big deal about it. That you guys are even arguing with me just proves how accustomed you are to getting away with racism towards Asian people. It's further infuriating that the writers of Bastardly are the ones doing it because they don't see how much this hurts their own race. And finally, the point about Darfur was highly sarcastic seeing as Moe thinks that everything can be made into a joke.

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 2:04am
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shut up, dirties

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 4:43am
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I'm typically not one to get upset about un-PC type comments, but now you're taking it over the line. Your comments are no longer witty or humorous; now you're just being stupid and mean. Just because one of you is asian does not give you the right to make the rest of us look bad.

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 7:39am
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why is sarah silverman allowed to make jew jokes?

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 10:43am
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Sarah Silverman is allowed to make jokes about Jews because she is Jewish. But her jokes are funny because they actually have something to do with Jewish identity that is REAL and from an insider's perspective. Fobby accents aren't from an insider. Fobby accents indiscriminately ascribed to ALL your Asian subjects are also not funny. Except to the lowest common denominator.

You really don't get that?

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 2:15pm
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Sarah Silverman is disgusting and knows that if she doesn't take jabs at herself other people will surely. This way she appears to be a sport about it. WHy did you guys even post her on this site, damn I thought it was hot chicks.. And she wasn't even brownbagged. I'm mad at that!

Friday, August 3rd, 2007 @ 7:05pm
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LOLZ!! Nice Bai pics too.

Saturday, August 4th, 2007 @ 12:18pm
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Kayla:
1.) I said I would mail a sense of humor to you if you provided your address. I never made any reference to "jest".
2.) I merely tried to pint out the fact that disclaimer is, indeed, addressing the commentors. I never tried to address your "main point" of hypocrisy. Trys to saty with me here.
3.) You got one right! Kudos! I never actually did answer this question. When did you ask it of me, specifically. Perhaps I missed an entry.
4.) That comment is so far reaching that it really doesn't merit a response. Read the First Amendment.
Once again, you overreach (your arms must be tired). I never said I "shot you down". I was expressing my opinion that your arguments were effectively countered and quelled by a number of commentors.
Advice: continue to visit the Bastardly, but don't read the postings you find offensive.
Anyone can take offense to anything. The world will never be non-offensive because it is comprosed of humans that rationalize everything differently, ergo the term individual. I am not by any means condoning racism, sexism or any type of aberrant behavior, all I'm saying is you have to take some things with a "grain of salt". If you want to truly do something about racism then get off the Bastardly and write your Congressman or donate your time to an organization that fights the types of stereotyping, racism and human behaviors that you find offensive.
I was going to have lunch now, but you've put so many "words in my mouth" that I'm already full.

Saturday, August 4th, 2007 @ 1:01pm
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Senin

I took your advice to do "whatever it takes" and went to Mexico for a few days.

1) If having a sense of humor isn't for "jesting", then what is it for? Is your platform on humor or is it not?

2) Yes, I know what you said. But my question has a universal implication: why is it ok that Bastardly post racists things, but it not be ok for commentors besides it being the case that Bastardly runs this site?

3) Yes, you did.

4) So freedom of speech is particular, now? You realize at this point that your line of reasoning becomes circular, right?

Who is the one "overreaching"? You have personally attacked me several times even though this entire argument has nothing to do with me on a personal level because really, I could be on valium and still be pissed off about this. Talking down to me is not going to change how I feel about this debate. Whether or not I try to change the world elsewhere has nothing to do with the captions on this site. You think these captions are ok, but I don't and as an Asian person visiting this site, I would just like a little bit of respect. Bastardly is a source of guilty pleasure, but I would like it without the side of racism.

Tuesday, August 7th, 2007 @ 9:19pm
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oops, I meant #4 to be a part of #2

Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 @ 10:11am
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the real #4: you still didn't answer the question. Do YOU condone it? I was not asking about freedom of speech. Next: since you state American freedom of speech, is France "wrong" for shutting down racist websites?

My bad for mixing it up....still jetlagged.

Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 @ 10:17am
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Also, since Senin thinks that all these counter arguments have been so effective, and I haven't addressed every single one (there are a lot from you non-Asian people):

dude88: just because one Asian person thinks its ok, doesn't mean it is. Even if 100 Asian people think it's ok, doesn't make it so. Bandwagon means nothing.

Stone
“It doesn’t harm, diminish or degrade a race.”

A subjective claim based on your opinion. It doesn't harm the Asian race based on your opinion. It does based on mine. Who is the better authority? A non-Asian person speaking from a safe distance, or an Asian person?

Max
False analogy, relativism, socio-economic status

False analogy: though I was being sarcastic so your false analogy claim doesn't apply, I'll still answer this one. The claim that this is a false analogy is COMPLETELY wrong. Pick another fallacy. It was not the case that two completely different claims were made and one was chosen. Rather, a parallel scenario was given.

Relativism: I answered this one. This is new-age sophistry. If words and phrases have no true meanings or definitions than "happy" might as well mean "angry" and "racism" might as well mean "edification".

Socio-economic status of Asians: really, what does this have to do with racism? It just means that Asian people have worked hard. If you mean to say that Asians have "power" then I ask you how many Asians are in a position of true power in the US? Yes, the Senate and Congress is just FILLED with Asians. Racism against Asians isn't blatant. It's consistent and latent and this kind of outside "humor" just perpetuates it.

Finally, Senin: "email a sense of humor" and first amendment

You think I need a sense of humor. I think I don't. See how that works? I think your sense of humor is based on an outside perception of Asian people and therefore your "sense of humor" is really racism. See how relativism and subjectivity work for me?

first amendment: just cause it's a law/amendment doesn't make it right. I had no idea you were so Kantian. I don't follow laws for the sake of laws, which is why I think the right to bear arms is completely stupid and misinterpreted by most Americans, but that's another argument for another time.

But you are right Senin. I don't have to visit this site. All I wanted was to come here without being irked by the racist twist, but there are plenty of other websites to go to. TMZ, Superficial anyone?

Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 @ 11:02am
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Monica:
Who are you? I never addressed any of my comments to you, unless you are Kayla's alter ego.
Either way, tomato, tomato, potato potato. I never condoned racism. Learn to read and don't let the barn door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Sayonara.

Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 @ 1:12pm
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Obviously, I'm Kayla.

"Learn to read".

You, sir, are a regular Shakespeare.

Wednesday, August 8th, 2007 @ 7:44pm
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C. Dolores Tucker thought 2pac's lyrics were hateful and misogynistic - but a lot of people disagree. Jerry Falwell think the Harry Potter books are satanic - but a lot of people disagree. My dad thinks all the music made since 1989 is crap - I personally disagree. More to the point, about half of us think abortion is evil, and about half of us disagree. Occasionally, we all find our own moral compass diametrically opposed to those of people around us. There's no moral code to which we all subscribe, and thankfully no moral police in this country to enforce one, which means that there's nothing BUT relativism to help us decide what should and shouldn't be permitted.

You called me an elitist, but you seem to think that everyone who disagrees with you is ignorant, uneducated, stupid, or racist. I don't neccessarily think you're wrong - I can certainly see how the comments could cause offense to anyone, Asian or otherwise. However, I take exception to your refusal to acknowledge that the points of view of others could have merit as well. Simply because the comments offend you personally doesn't define them as unequivocally wrong. Nor should it. If it did, Harry Potter and hamburgers would be hard to find.

You certainly seem well versed in the theory of argument. But i bet even some of the Sophists tried to keep an open mind.

Monday, August 13th, 2007 @ 3:13pm
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hah. good stuff, man.

and, thank you for the bai wing photos!! i lub ebby thyme!!!

we no wothy! we no wothy!!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 12:41pm
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funny how? what? am i a clown here to amuze you? hahaha! people make funny voices all the time. biiiig deeeealll. i'm an irish cracker boy, go ahead and make fun i don't care!! i can't stand polically correct whiners.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:03pm
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i'd tap it on her forehead. good points, daxon doesn't make black, hispanic, irish, russian ehtnic jokes. but wtf? i come her to look at titties, not engage in social warfare.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:21pm
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I don't know.. I don't personally take offence because I am not Asian, but it's blatantly obvious that it's offensive and some people are going to be rubbed the wrong way by the captions. Especially because maily one race is being targetted. White people are uninteresting to bully racially, and those of African decent are not fair game, because of history. Which leaves the Asians open. Still think it's wrong and I don't support it, but I am not going to leave the website because of it. Whoever did write the hatemail have done theirs, and if they see this continued behavior in here, I would suggest to find more neutral sites. After all this is the Bastardly, and bullying is as natural as breathing in here. Just sayin'.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:30pm
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jackson!! start doing us latinos we don't give a fuck!!!! we do have sence of humor....call us frijolers, weatbacks, speddy's gonzales....we don't care....it only a joke bitches...no sean putos!!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:02pm
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Moe her is the "Racial Slur Database" for your future posts!!!

http://www.rsdb.org/?2

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 2:50pm
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^ I get it. The social issue that we're still stuck on is racism...

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:55pm
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I agree with Jennifer! Let's start Darfur and Black people. I'm sure Bastardly can make that funny!

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 4:06pm
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Oh yeah....#67 and #69. If the bastardly made fun of Black people, that would be defeating the purpose that we're trying to get them to comprehend. What a contradiction.
Just bringing that idea up as an option sounds hypocritical and just as ignorant as they are.
Besides, 95% of the posters on this site are white, so how the hell would talking about Black people both them? If it's not their race, then why would they care? That's the point.

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 7:16pm
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to: "kayla"
my business partner was born in vietnam. most of the worst asian jokes i've ever heard came from him. he's got a million of them and always laughs. so much of this is just how you take it. don't get all pissy about it.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:06pm
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They can accuse every celebrity on the planet of being a coke whore or committing statutory rape or whatever and it's fine, but they make a silly, self-deprecating Asian joke that's not even mean-spirited and suddenly we have to call the waaahmbulance? Get some fucking perspective, people.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:22pm
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I don't care what you write,... just keep up the Bai! I luuuuvvv's me some Bai n' her phat nippled titties!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:30pm
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Waa...Waa....How cares? Lighten up guys.

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 5:56pm
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*bother

Thursday, August 2nd, 2007 @ 7:17pm
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agreed...

but isn't the term "titties" derrogatory!?!?!?
you BASTARD! it's breasts, ok... BREASTS!

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:23pm
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hairpie...?...sank you very much...

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 @ 1:32pm
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